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Originally Posted by shootin4par theo,
On point one,
dont use harmon as proof, he book is terrible and so are his dvd's, he has VERY basic info, nothing exciting.
On point two
take a club and grip it with a short left thumb, bring it up to the top of the backswing and hold it there, now while in that position just lengthen the thumb
DId I say this was a panacea for a short back swing????? I just said this is why HOGAN did it. Most golfers loose spine angle, among other things that are more important to aid in shortening the back swing.
AND TO QUOTE HOGAN ON PAGE 32 SECOND PARAGRAPH
"I changed from what is called "long thumb" the left thumb fully extended down the shaft to a modified "short thumb" contracting my left thumb and pulling it up a half inch. THe "long thumb" let the club drop down to far at the top of the back swing and it made it really rough to get my timing right."
your thoughts, Theo "I Need help getting my foot out of my mouth" illogic
On point three,
Cupped at the top is OK if you want to make an extra move to be flat by impact
Glad you have read so many "experts books" but you have yet to mention a book I have not read and you would have to mention MANY more before you get to that point  I guess you think you are the only one who knows how to read  |
Shootin,
You have gone loopy.
You cast disparaging remarks on one of the most respected coaches of the 20th century (John Jacobs), and now you are throwing dirt on Butch Harmon. Do you even know who Butch Harmon is?
1. His Dad taught
2. He played as a pro
3. His students play like a "Who's Who"
4. And many say Tiger's downfall was when he lost Butch as a coach.
If you go to Golf Digest, you will see that the #1 rank golf instructor in the world is Butch Harmon. (See
http://www.golfdigest.com/instructio...greatest2.html)
Finally, you aren't even reading what you write:
Here is your quote in an earlier post,
"a short left thumb promotes a shorter back swing and allows less time for the club to square."
Now you say,
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DId I say this was a panacea for a short back swing?????"
Yes, you said exactly this. You said a short left thumb promotes a short backswing and allows less time for the club to square. (Give me a break.)
You then quote Hogan as a defining source for a short thumb, which Jacobs had already said was Hogan's own idea, and he did not see this with the vast majority of his pupils.
You also spend time saying that teeing the ball back doesn't have a chance of helping a hook with a driver. Instead you declare our person must be coming OTT. (Don't even get me going on OTT moves with a long driver--the shallow swing plane makes this difficult.)
Attached is a little image form Paul Foston's Golf Techniques. I hope you understand what he is trying to say about the effect of teeing backwards.
1. I am not bright about this stuff.
2. However, I read the experts and parrot their concepts back.
3. You seem to enjoy saying that I am arrogant. The term for this is "projection." Please read about this here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Not only do you need to read a book, but you need to remember what was wrote.
Theo "Spring Is The Best Time For A Good Flame War" Logic