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Originally Posted by ogallalabob I guess I understand that scoring but my 2 questions are:
1) you hit a provisional down the middle of the fairway, hit it again then find your original ball are you allowed then to play your original ball and forget about the provisional and the subsequent shot? I always thought once you played the next shot it is no longer a provisional ball and your 1st ball is no longer in play. (which I believe Msklar implied the opposite in his post) |
The important thing is this: If you played the provisional
closer to the hole than where you figure your original ball to be[/i], then you imply that your original ball is lost, and the provisional is the ball in play.
In other words, you could chunk your provisional 6 times, walk up and find your original ball in play, and it's like those 6 chunks never happened.
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob 2) you play a provisional ball in case your first is out of bounds, if the first is determined lost not out of bounds does the lost ball provisional count or does he have to go back and hit? |
Rule 27-2: If a ball may be lost outside a water hazard or may be out of bounds, to save time the palyer may play another ball provisionally
So whether you play the provisional because you figure the first ball is lost, or you play it because you figure the first ball is OB doesn't matter. Play the provisional. If you play it because you thought it was OB, and your ball ends up lost, then the same rule applies. Simple and easy.
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Originally Posted by ogallalabob I do remeber a situation in one of the Majors (couple years ago) Phil hit a ball deep into the woods, played a provisional (in case it was lost)and screwed it down the fairway,he did not really go looking for the ball, but his playing partner found the ball(what a guy), he had to go identify it, determined that the ball was unplayable and he had to go back and hit from the Tee, he could not use the lost ball provisional because it was hit as a lost ball provisional not an unplayable lie provisional. I just wondered if the distinction between OB and lost are diferent or not.
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No, no distinction between OB and lost. You cannot hit a provisional because you figure your ball may be unplayable. You have to identify your ball before you can deem it unplayable. Then your options for an UNPLAYABLE ball are:
1) Replay the shot from as close to the original ball placement as possible.
2) Draw a line from the hole through your ball. Drop your ball on this line, as far back as you like.
3) Drop your ball within an area 2 clublengths behind your ball.
If you're in a hazard, you must stay in the hazard under options 2 or 3.
Remember, you and you alone can decide (and declare) if your ball is unplayable.