HERE IN WEST TEXAS THE WIND IS VERY STRONG.. I HAVE ONE DRIVER THAT IS 8.5 DEGREE. ITS A GREAT TITLEIST 983K WITH A STIFF SPEEDER FUJIKURA SHAFT. iTS A LONG ONE ESP WITH THE ROLL. JUST THOUGHT THAT ADDING A 12 DEGREE WITH A REGULAR FLEX SHAFT WOULD BE NICE ON THOSE SHORTER (3 WOOD TYPE HOLES) WITH NO WIND OR A LITTLE WIND HELP. I WILL KEEP YOU POSTED.