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Old 09-04-2006, 11:06 PM
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Re: One plane - Two plane swing difference:

Ok Brian, I'm ba ack.. I've read your link and thats cool, but the last thing I want to think about when I'm swinging is where the butt of the club is pointing or imagining circles around my head etc... I'm not suggesting that you would want anyone to, but those were the images that popped into my head when reading your post. I mean this with all due respect because I know you are a student of the game as I have been for the past nine months. I've read and listened to a ton of instruction in that time and have tried, and made, what seems like a thousand adjustments and additions to my swing as a result. There is more to try I'm sure but I can't imagine what at the moment. Keep in mind I've only been playing for some nine months.

What I know after reading Jim Hardy's article is that I have been utilizing and working on and making adjustments to what "he calls" a "one plane swing" (shoulder rotation is parallel to swing rotation or on the same plane) Because he further suggests that for someone who isn't a "power hitter" and may be approaching the senior years (I'm 59), what "he calls" a "two plane swing" (shoulder rotation closer to parallel with the ground, swing rotation more perpendicular to shoulder rotation) might be more advantageous. So I decided to try what "he calls" a "two plane swing this weekend starting on Saturday.

At first I got kinda cockeyed thinking about swinging the club more up and down while rotating the shoulders around. Shimanee crickets, talk about a screwy preshot thought. Anyhow, I finally decided to just stand more erect, I shortened my stance and I went to a neutral grip instead of the strong grip I had been using with what "Hardy calls" a one plane swing. I began to feel very comfortable with this setup and the resulting swing. My confidence began to grow as I was stiking the ball much better. I simply felt more comfortable. These changes are what Hardy suggests should be employed for what "he calls" a two plane swing.

My average scores over the past mont to month and a half have been anywhere from 97 to 107. This past Saturday I shot 98. Sunday I shot 97. And today I shot my best score ever of 90. 47 on the front and 43 on the back. I've never shot a 43 in nine before. Yesterday I shot 44 on the back nine which was the lowest I'd ever shot nine to that date.

So in conclusion I'll just say this: there may or may not be a "significant" difference in the two swings, if indeed there are two swings, but this adjustment has given me more positive, dramatic results than anything that I have tried to date. I feel so much more comfortable with evey thing about this swing (and felt it almost instantly) that I know I will never ever go back to what "Hardy calls" a one plane swing.

So in answer to my original thread starting post. I like Hardy's definition of the difference between a one and a two plane swing. I understand it. And I'm glad I asked, because I sure enjoyed my round of 18 today . 80's here I come..

Don't mean to sound cocky guy's, but after all I am 59... Uh, now where did I leave my glasses??
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