thanks for your response greg. I am going to incorperate this with the chair drill where I will make 100 body turns a day without a club while keeping my butt against a chair. Now when I do this my right cheek on the way back actually pusshes up harder against the chair then at address because it is rotating instead of staying in place. So the right cheek actually rotates a little closer to the target, then on the forward swing the left will do the same. ANymore thoughts on that or other good ways to get this motion ingrained? thanks. It stinks when you know what to do and the physics behind it but still have to clean things up on the swing. That is the life of a golfer