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Re: New fitting idea **open discussion**

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Originally Posted by ogallalabob
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The other interesting point is that if all the club lengths are the same, then the lies (set at the factory, in increasingly upright lies) will get more upright - forcing you to be more upright. So now we're back to equalizing the lies for clubs of the same length.

Everyone's thoughts are welcome on the subject.
Wouldn't this also change the flight of the ball?

I have read some golfers (Darren Clarke being one) like to have more upright long irons and flatter short irons because it is easier to draw an upright iron and fade a flatter iron.

Also would not having every iron the same length also make your yardages closer together and not give you the seperation you need between clubs? I always thought that was one of the reasons that clubs become shorter to slow down the swing speed as well as promoting more of an steep swing.

Though it is not like I know much in this area, so if it works great. Though I would like to hear the results.
A lot of golfers think that lie angle relates to shaping the ball. The answer is yes and no. If the lie is too flat, the toe will grab, and hold the face open. If the lie is too upright, the heel will grab, and spin the face shut; resulting in fades and draws (or slices and hooks), respectively. However, what's more important is that incorrect lie angles will start your ball in that direction - even when struck perfectly. A being 1° off in lie for a PW, hit from 100 yards, will result in a 22 foot miss. So 2° off is a 44 foot miss - almost 15 yards - or in other words, the difference between finding the middle of the green or missing it entirely!

Now, shaft length is NOT the #1 determiner of distance. Loft is. It's why your 5 iron is longer than your 9 iron, not the 2" difference. Increased shaft length = more yardage only if you can maintain sweetspot contact. In other words, you wouldn't necessarily hit a 40" 5 iron any further than a 37" 5 iron. However, I have read reports of bigger yardage gaps in the shorter irons, as they're longer than 'normal'.

I'm still struggling to understand the need for a steeper swing, beyond 'because the lies are more upright, you need to bend over more'.
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