edshaw, I like this quote by you "I don't
know, but the instruction provided in this
thread so far are right on the money"
so many times we may focus on one little minor detail in the golf swing that we disgree about instead of hte big details that we do agree about and that will lead to confusion. me you and greg have givien him some info and he can read all three and see that the discussion is pretty consistent but explained differently so he can cross reference between the three and get more out of it rather then trying to figure out which post is right and which is wrong.