It is not the liars, or those who exagerate about their games that is a problem. A good, honest player will always score lower than those types of golfers. Those golfers have ego problems, and most likely won't ever become a low double, or single digit player. Their poor games are their punishment. The golfers I can't stand are those sandbagging, cheating club players. Those are the worst people to be around. Even worse are the people who run these local players clubs' tournaments, know about these cheaters, and then still allows the cheating to continually take place. GJS