Thanks I will give them two a go.Well Gonavy if you mean Lawn Bowling ,yes I am quite a good bowler.I find its a little like putting its a visual judgement on distance etc.

Yes Ian the dreaded yips, I suffer the same at putting.Yet on the tee I am a first sighter,put the ball down and hit it, usually down the middle.Maybe I try that with the putting and chipping.