Originally Posted by cmays

Dawg:

Is a good example of trying to mix and match swing concepts. Just will not work.

Rotation, you must have rotated something in the backswing to rotate in the downswing. If the wheel on the car is not turning, it is not rotating.

When you take a strong grip on the club you open the clubface at address for 2 reasons.

1. That is your rotation that is needed in the downswing to rotate the clubface back to square.

2. It allows you to swing to the inside w/o rotating the hands, arms, wrist and club any further.

On the downswing, you will feel the arms and hands coming out to the right and trying to bring them to the inside does not work.

This is the upper body shoulder swing. The clubface is rotating for you.

Take the same strong grip, bring the club up to waist high and then allow the hands and arms to lift straight up then we are going to use the lower body action, the bump out on the downswing. The hands move slightly inwards from the shoulder turn in the backswing and not from bringing them in with the arms and hands from having an open clubface at address.

Also when we swing the arms straight up in the backswing at address we want the club squared to the ball because the forearms and hands are providing rotation in the backswing and if needed they can rotate back in the downswing.

I am dumb, only have 2 brain cells, gave the rest of them to my children, but I do not understand what is so hard to understand, if you have 1 car 100 miles from the finish line and the second car 500 miles further back from the finish line, the one that is further back is going to need to speed up to win the race to the finish line, it must travel faster then our car who started a 100 miles from the finish line.

In golf the further we swing the hands and arms around the body, behind us places us further from the finish line and we need to speed the swing up with shoulder rotation.

Right Handers?Left Reverse.

Sit in your chair and bring the palm of the left hand over to the right shoulder.

The forearm and hand is at the 45 degree angle when we travel to the inside with the arm and hand. It is traveling more to the inside then if we held the left palm in line with the right shoulder and 16 inches away from/out in front and from that position turn the left shoulder around to bring the hand to the inside.

Simple Concepts:

What turns more around the body in the backswing the more that needs to return in the downswing, we are replacing what we took away in the backswing.

What turns less around the body, the less we need to replace in the downswing.