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Old 07-11-2008, 08:44 AM
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Re: How to Cure Flipping ??!!!

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Originally Posted by chessbum View Post
I think considering a one plane swing is like suggesting an aspirin to cure cancer. First of all, most amateurs don't have a clue as to whether their swing is one plane, two plane or a mix. Furthermore, most instructors including PGA certified don't know much more about it than their amateur students. Didn't it take at least a year for Peter Jacobson to change over and that was with the best teachers available. If an amateur could find the right teacher and was willing to devote the time, he'd still go broke after all the lessons.

I actually think the best approach is through the highly praised book from this website, "Nail It". Don't get me wrong, I am not 100% sold on the book but I do believe that if you work on the 3 skills they preach that you can overcome the flipping tendency. I think the drills they recommend are a little weak and there are much better drills to help but the concepts are sound!!

1. Attacking downwards towards the golf ball
2. Use a curving attack with the clubhead and hit the ball at the outermost curve
3. Work the clubface from open to closed through impact. This is an IMPORTANT ONE!

The proof in the pudding is that you must admit that you see some people with a swing that is not so pleasing to the eye but they manage to hit the ball crisply and with a nice divot following the impact. That's what is really required.

The ball doesn't care what your swing looks like , or if it's a one or two plane swing, only what the clubface at impact looks like.

My advice is to read the book or find some good drills on the net to help with the flipping. Flipping is real, it's an affliction 80-90 % of amateurs have. It's all about the impact zone.

Brian don't take offense. I just want to present a different point of view; one that offers some hope to us amateurs. We can't all devote our lives to converting our swing but we can work on some simple concepts and drills that will most likey help. Just my 2 cents worth...

Chessbum...
OK, thanks for your comments.

My main point is that flipping or swatting of the wrists is not necessarily such a bad thing, it becomes a problem when associated with an even worse fault, that of poor pivot and keeping the weight on the trail foot in the downswing. Swatting the wrists is able to enhance club speed if used correctly with a properly stacked swing. Read "The 7 laws of the golf swing" by Nick Bradley. I do not generally promote it though and was merely trying to get the problem into context.

Regarding a one plane swing. I would disagree that the concept is complicated or difficult to learn, what is called "The modern swing" where the club is rotated more around the body and only gets to shoulder high in the backswing is a form of a one plane swing, it is incorporated into many of the top tour pros now: Tiger, Ernie, Veejay and many more use it now as did Hogan. I would go as far as to say it's much easier to learn, low maintenance swing that has less complicated maneuvers and helps to prevent many of the problems associated with using a two plane swing.

I am a great proponent of 3Skills and agree it is a great program for anyone who has become paralysed with the mechanics of swinging a club at a ball.

If you really don't wish to offend me then please don't use analogies like aspirins for cancer, I do not try to offer advice that is IMO and experience unreasonable but I can see that some may not agree with it and that's fine, my advice is given freely and honestly.
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