and most of the pros get on the par 5's easily in two! Tiger et al are almost 4 under before they starts a round!

Killer, regardless of the collapse - still a great score round a tough course mate! well done. I carry my bag and even though i am quite fit, I still get tired towards the end of a round. I think tiredness breeds sloppiness and so at the end of a round concentration is even more important.

Nick