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Old 09-19-2007, 08:09 AM
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My take on this is that the swing path, clubhead speed and contact with the ball are ultimately what decides where the ball will go and how it gets there, everything else is secondary to these prerequisites. Most teachings in videos, books or lessons do not focus on these basic principles, if they did then there would be a whole bunch of less confused and better golfers out there.
Exactly Brian,

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Thoses who attended the Forest of Arden, have a slight advantage to how this 3skills work, Kevin, who did the demonstration actually stood in many positions totally again all fundimentals, even with his back to the target (yes his back)(not to mention 250+yds off his knees) just to prove that as long as you apply the 3skills then you will hit the ball where you want to, think about it no matter where you stand, come from the inside,downward blow with rotation.

My point was Monty, Couples, Nickalus, Trevino, Sabatini, Wiranchant ('The Asian fella with the worse swing I have ever seen') all have one thing in common--they all apply the 3skills.
Greg's right hand drill simply focuses on attacking the ball from the inside skill 2.

I have thought long and hard about this: all the things we work on when we have lessons are all designed to apply the 3skills, this is why this simple book seems to be a Revolution because it focuses on the basic task......!!!

I will be at the Belfry tomorrow watching the British Masters, I am hoping this will satisfy my mind that they focus on this simple thing, that's why they are so good, would you be if you spent your whole golfing career with only these 3 thoughts??.

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Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

good point ian
perhaps the guys at arden do have the slight advantage of having a real life vision on whats going on.
but i think the concepts and drills are easy to follow so i think if you follow the books instructions correctly then you should acheive some success eventually
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Hey guys.
Big hello to all the Arden boys in the house
Thanks so much for all your positive comments and continued support.
Anyone going to the British Masters maybe put a shout out about the 3skillsgolf and 'Nail It' to everyone there
We gotta all meet up again and have another game.
All handicaps will be subject to review as you all are 'nailing it' now I'm sure
May I just say,
it is vital that people let go of all previous swing mechanics in order to understand the 3skillsgolf method.
If anyone, for what ever reason, does not do this they are making the game a million times harder for themselves.
Play well and practise in a simple manner.
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Hope you have posted mine!!!
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Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I was practicing the drills today at the range. I had a couple of thoughts. One thing that occurred to me is that club offset probably helps with skill 1. My irons are not offset at all, so I have no experience with this, but it made sense to me at the time.

The other thing I noticed is that practicing the drills on mats can give false results. At this range, I have no choice. There are no turf practice areas. The other range where I sometimes go does have turf areas, but it will soon be closing for good. But I can say with certainty that I was getting false results with the skill 1 drill, and that may be due to some interference from the mats. Even though the mats at this range are the best I've seen, I still think they don't give a true simulation of ball striking. If you hit the ball a bit thin, the mat tends to bounce it up onto the club face, so you get a better result than you would on grass. If you hit it fat, the club doesn't dig in, so you may still make decent contact. I know that there have been many times when I've hit a ball thin at the range, so that I can even feel the shock in my hands, but I still get fair ball flight. On the golf course, that same impact would result in a worm-burner that streaks 40 yards and dies.
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May I just say,
it is vital that people let go of all previous swing mechanics in order to understand the 3skillsgolf method.
If anyone, for what ever reason, does not do this they are making the game a million times harder for themselves.
Play well and practise in a simple manner.
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I am warming to the idea of buying this book. I notice when you click on order it you can use paypal, any chance of setting this up for us Canadians?

Is there a Canadian vendor of this book we should know about?
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I am warming to the idea of buying this book. I notice when you click on order it you can use paypal, any chance of setting this up for us Canadians?

Is there a Canadian vendor of this book we should know about?
good choice ian
just remember to get rid of all previous swing thoughts and have real belief in the 3skills concept.
as i say to everyone " if i can do it then anyone can"
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good choice ian
just remember to get rid of all previous swing thoughts and have real belief in the 3skills concept.
as i say to everyone " if i can do it then anyone can"
No problem Dave!

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I am warming to the idea of buying this book. I notice when you click on order it you can use paypal, any chance of setting this up for us Canadians?

Is there a Canadian vendor of this book we should know about?

You can use the USA paypal link snowman. The only reason there are two seperate UK and USA is for the higher shipping costs across the atlantic... I shall have it made a bit clearer.

You can also purchase the book through captaingolf.com | golf auctions and classifieds, who accept all debit/credit cards through their secure payment system via worldpay.

Hope this helps mate... enjoy the book
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Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I had a session at the range tonight in prep for some games on the weekend. This time I lent my swing completely to the 3 skills which seemed to transpond into a shorter backswing that only concerned it's self with keeping the the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact.

I have to honestly admit that I am stunned at the effortless power that I am hitting the ball with and how every club in my bag is working so well. This 3 skills system is a breath of fresh air to someone like me who has been so tied up with the mechanics of the swing for so long, I feel that I can let go of all that complexity and just hit good shots.

Joe Hagan, I take my hat off to you!
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Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I also had a range session today, devoted to the 3 skills; my fourth practice session with them this week. I'm really back to working just skills 1 and 2, since the book says skill 3 has to be built on them. When I first started out with the book, I thought I had 1 and 2 "nailed," so to speak. In fact, I still seem to have no trouble at all with the drill for skill 2. But 1 comes and goes, and I get "false positives" with the drill. That is, I do the drill fine but the ball doesn't always do what it should. It may be the mats, as I speculated in my last post on the subject, or it may just be something or other I'm doing that's weird.

I have to agree, however, that working on the skills seems to move me in the direction of a shorter backswing, which doesn't bother me at all. Maybe it's the "nail it" visualization at work. After all, when I hammer a nail I don't take the hammer waaaaaaay back. In any case, length of backswing is not what the skills are about, so I don't pay much attention to it.

I'll be playing a round tomorrow morning, and I'm hoping I can climb back down out of the 100s again. It promises to be a gorgeous day, perfect for golf.
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I had a session at the range tonight in prep for some games on the weekend. This time I lent my swing completely to the 3 skills which seemed to transpond into a shorter backswing that only concerned it's self with keeping the the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact.

I have to honestly admit that I am stunned at the effortless power that I am hitting the ball with and how every club in my bag is working so well. This 3 skills system is a breath of fresh air to someone like me who has been so tied up with the mechanics of the swing for so long, I feel that I can let go of all that complexity and just hit good shots.

Joe Hagan, I take my hat off to you!
Purely in the spirit of debate, how much of this is because you have fundamentally sound swing mechanics anyhow?

Perhaps using 3Skills is liberating for you because of Bradley, The Swing Factory et al - you might be letting them go on one level but they are still there subconsciously.

I wouldn't disagree that the simplicity of 3Skills is freeing users of the techniques up to play better golf - how could I? the evidence is in this forum but I'd respectfully suggest many of the beneficiaries were half way there already.

And just to be mischievous, when we talk about the mechanics of the swing just what are "the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact" if not swing mechanics.

From my point of view I will be persevering with the 3Skills concept because I think I've [with Brian's help] solved a problem with Skill 2 that was really holding me back but I'm still not sure that its stands alone as a technique but rather something that frees you to [as previous posts have explored] just to "twat it albeit to "twat it" with control and purpose.

OK I'l retire now and await the bombardment.
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Purely in the spirit of debate, how much of this is because you have fundamentally sound swing mechanics anyhow?

Perhaps using 3Skills is liberating for you because of Bradley, The Swing Factory et al - you might be letting them go on one level but they are still there subconsciously.

I wouldn't disagree that the simplicity of 3Skills is freeing users of the techniques up to play better golf - how could I? the evidence is in this forum but I'd respectfully suggest many of the beneficiaries were half way there already.

And just to be mischievous, when we talk about the mechanics of the swing just what are "the clubface going back and coming through on the correct path, hitting the ball with the correct angle of descent for the club in use and closing the club through impact" if not swing mechanics.

From my point of view I will be persevering with the 3Skills concept because I think I've [with Brian's help] solved a problem with Skill 2 that was really holding me back but I'm still not sure that its stands alone as a technique but rather something that frees you to [as previous posts have explored] just to "twat it albeit to "twat it" with control and purpose.

OK I'l retire now and await the bombardment.
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you make a very good point in your post
when i had a lesson earlier this year the pro commented on how good my fundamentals were but didnt really offer anything that could help me improve.
i have in the 3 years ive been playing bought the mags,books,dvds etc and read 100's of tips in forums like this one but most of the time they only serve to confuse and contradict each other.
what 3skills has done for me is to strip away all that and just leave me with the 3 things i need to focus on.
i honestly believe if you dont approach 3skills in the right manner then you will struggle to make it work.
i had complete faith in it and was prepared to forget all previous swing thoughts and thats why i thinks its working for me.
by no means am i a natural golfer
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Re: i used the 3 skills and nailed it!

I have just got the book, obviously spurred by all the positive comments.

So far, I've only glanced at it. At first, I was disappointed as there's really nothing new (that's clearly pointed out in this thread, though). Also, I already adopt the three principles mantioned in my swing. However, thinking about it some more, I can see that the focus on these three core techniques, pretty much to the exclusion of everything else, would surely benefit many golfers. Some will get an immediate improvement (ie greater distance) simply by delofting their irons.

I also like the idea that the book strips so much away and concentrates on a few key processes. I do accept, though, that to get the most benefit, certain other elements of the swing must be in place. However, these could well come from simply trying to apply the 3 skills. Regardless, the book gives a key to consistent, good ball striking and is something that everybody can work on.
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