went for the clubs anyway and what a difference im now hitting 115 mtrs with the pitcher and the three iron went to the 200 mtr mark the real thing is these are flying like arrows were i aim them, cant wait to try them on the course and hopefully go under my 97 record,ok i know its not great but it is to me cos ive only been playing a few months, anyway cheers for now. p.s there is one problem they look that nice i dont want to get them dirty ;-)