Distance comparison table

Gree, it sounds like you need to change your irons. Your driver distance is great but your iron distances suck something terrible!! Have you perhaps got over stiff shafts on your irons.With that kind of power with the driver you should be getting 150 metres on your 6 iron.

What shaft is on your driver and what shafts are on your irons?

Casting is usually caused by starting the swing with the shoulders, try and make sure you let the right shoulder stay with the hands on the way downand keep the hands with the clubhead letting the right shoulder push your chin round. Remember the cube drill: imagine the ball is a cube and you are concentrating on hitting the corner nearest your right foot. This will encourage you to throw the hands out to 1 o clock.

I heard a really good tip last night on the golf channel. Power is best generated with a nice wide backswing but a narrower downswing. When I thought about it it made sense when you go back you are storing power in your coil, as you release if you swing slightly inside the plane of the backswing then the club travels less distance back to the ball and the power is most efficiently transferred to the ball.

Again, one of the best tips I ever got was "if you need to hit the ball further take more club" bear that in mind, its quite possibly the easiest fix ever.

But then again:

Mr Sam Snead was hitting 2 irons down the range, his caddie was standing in the distance plucking the balls out of the air as the first bounce stunned into the turf and took all the forward momentum off the ball, a great demonstration of the Slammers incredible ball striking. A voice pipes up from the admiring throng

"Mr Snead, how do you get backspin on a 2 iron?"

Mr Snead fixed him with a withering stare

"How far do you hit your 2 iron son?"

"About 160 yards, sir"

Mr Snead turns back to his practice

"What the hell do you want it to stop for?"

Classic.......

D.

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Cmays, I only been playing for just over 2 years my first 12 months I didn't play on course I would take a 7 iron down to the driving range and hit 300 balls a day. The guy I worked for is a professional and he look at my swing at least once a month and give me somthing to work on. After being quite consistant at hitting the ball it was time to go to the course. I could hit greens or be quite close then would take 4 to 6 shots to hole out. I was averaging 45 putts a round. and another 13 shots around the greens with close to 50% of greens in regulation.

I have in the last 6 weeks had a couple of lessons on my short game. one for putting and another on chipping and pitching. I have now been going around with 36 putts. and cut my around the green effects by a couple of shots I have been going around in practice now about 12 over par. Next year I will be playing in the weekly comps and watch that handicap shrink.

Here is my round yesterday,

I play a low par course of 65

1st 203 metre par 3, (223 yards) 3 iron off chip on and 1 putt par
2nd 290 metre par 4 ( 320 yards) 1 iron pulled LW chipon 2 putts 1 over
3rd 175 metre par 3 (192 yards) 5 iron onto green 2 putts par
4th 340 metre par 4 (375 yards) driver pushed really right 5 iron to green 2 putts par
5ht 180 metre par 3 (198 yards) 4 iron off tee 2 putts par
6 hole 340 metre par 4 (375 yards) 1 iron off tee, 9 iron over back of green chip on and 2 putts 1 over par
7th par 5 460 metres (505 yards) 1 iron off tee, 1 iron next to green chip on and 2 putts par
8th hole 140 metre par 3 (155 yards) 9 iron off tee, 1 putt birdie
9th hole 290 metres (320 yards) 1 iron from tee Lw into green 2 putt par

my best round for 9 holes 1 over par
6 greens in reg 4 out of 5 fairways.
2 bogeys 1 birdie 16 putts

10th 108 metre par 3 (119 yards) SW off tee, front edge of green 2 putts par
11th hole 320 metre (352 yards) 1 iron off tee pw into green side bunker lw out 2 putts 1 over
12th 330 metre par 4 (363 yards) 1 iron off tee drove into trees chip out 7 iron hit fat lw pitched onto green 2 putts 2 over par
13th 130 metre par 3 (143 yards) Hard PW onto green 2 putts par
14th 140 metre par 3 (154 yards) hard 9 iron guts the ball and when 20 metres past the green pitch onto the green 2 putts for 1 over
15th 300 metre (330 yards) 4 iron off tee didn't quite make it past the dogleg tried a risky puch under a tree hit the tree and when 30 back past me Then I just pull out my 9 iron and flew the trees and landed on the green best shot all day 1 putt par
16th 160 metre par 3 (176 yards) 6 iron past the back of green wind picked up 9 iron bump and run down to hole the a weak putt stopping front edge of hole 1 over par
17th hole 410 metre par 4 (451 yards) Driver half skied only when 180 metre good 230 metres left for green pull my 1 iron and left it pin high right side bunker, got out of sand and 2 putts for 1 over
18th hole 390 metre par 4 (430 yards) 1 iron off tee 6 iron into centre of green 3 putts for 1 over.
last 9 was 8 over par
4 greens in reg, 4 out of 5 fairways hit 18 putts

yesterday I hit
10/18 greens 8/10 fairways 34 putts, 10 other shots
9 over par for the day. a good round for me.

my distances are as follow:

driver: 280 or higher with roll ive gotten within 5 feet of 300 yard par 4.

3 wood: 250-currently broken, never let cousins that never play use your clubs

5 wood: 230

3 hybrid: 230 yeah the same as my 5 wood

3i-210
4i-200
5i-190
6i-180
7i-170
8i-160
9i-150
pw-130
sw-115
lw-80

i need something between the sw and lw, im a pretty strong hitter, i just got new irons and driver so accuracy has jumped and now im really working on it and its getting great, i can hit a 5'x5' trampoline thats 100 yards 3 out of 10 times.

I think the tiger chart does need to be updated. I am sure those messurements are metres not yards. I watched him the other day hit a 3 iron over 240 yards within 6 foot of the flag. which is just under 220 metres.

I'm pretty sure those distances for Tiger were conservative even for then.

Well I have regular flex graphite in my Driver and 5Wood and stiff steel in my irons, but when Im hitting the irons well they are fantastic.

The good news is that I think I discovered what I was doing wrong today.
Ive been seeing these high , right & short shots for the last few months and divot is always pointing left, today I figured out why.
I had a dirty great big chicken wing of a right elbow with my irons, forcing me to the outside.
Solved that today and was hitting the ball nicely and long, also got my draw back with my driver, which is nice
Was hitting the 5Iron 150M which is fine for me with no roll and cold weather.
Went around the 12 holes today in:
Triple
Par
Par
Par
Par
Bogie (missed a 1 foot putt, ugh!)
Par
Par
Par
Double (OB off tee)
Birdie
Bogie
Which is nice
Lets see what next week brings, but I was getting much better contact with the irons and much straighter shots.

gree your iron distances are shocking. you should be getting 180+ metres from your 5 iron working off your driver distances. you cannot be swinging the same swing with your irons as your driver.

Yeah, though they were much better yesterday and taking into account the cold and wet 150m with a 5 iron is ok.
I know for a fact that I dont get the same width with my irons that I do with my woods, Since I know I am supposed to be sweeping the woods I seem to create a very wide, powerful arc.
Playing partners have pointed it out to me that I do not do the same with my irons, still I'm getting there.

I don't think that chart is accurate, or it's in miles, and not yards :-p

This past tournament, Tigers first three drives were arround 330, 330, and 360.

If I'm not wrong his average driving distance was about 316yds for the Tour Championship. And that's with a new driver. So the chart is still not that far off

The chart is average carry.

His driver distances are all including roll. All driving distances for stats are how far the ball has travelled in total (carry + roll).

Also remember that the yardage chart is the distance he hits it normally. The distance you hit each club shouldn't be the furthest you can hit it, but how far you hit with your normal swing.

My average 7 iron carry distance is 155 to 165 yards but if I really went for it maybe 175 but it probably wouldn't be very accurate and I probably wouldn't even connect very well on it so it would probably be a duff.

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Taylormade r7 9.5* Stiff stock shaft
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Titleist 904F 4 wood 17* Stiff Aldila NV85 shaft
Mizuno MP67 3-PW S300 shafts
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Odyssey White Hot #4 putter

I have always believed distance helps but it isn't the "be all and end all" of good scoring. Here are my distances (carry):

Driver: 230m
3-wood: 210m
7-wood: 180m
4-iron: 175m
5-iron: 165m
6-iron: 155m
7-iron: 145m
8-iron: 135m
9-iron: 125m
48* PW: 110m
52*GW: 95m
56* SW: 80m
60*LW: 65m
I played yesterday, I hit 12 out of 14 fairways and 16 greens. That's where breaking par comes from. Of the 16 greens I hit, 12 approaches where within 6m (18ft).

Graham,

What was your score for your round?

My guess would be -4

What would you expect to score if you hit

6/13 fairways
6/18 GIR
33 putts
2 putts per GIR
50% sand saves
25% scrambles

Na, +4 is more like it. Don't ask ... I'm looking for a new putter!! Normally I am an exceptionally good putter averaging around 26 or 27 putts, so I was pretty hacked off. In a normal day, yeah - with those stats 67 or 68... Bloody 76 makes me wanna vommit.

Assuming you play a par 72 layout, I rekon:
6 GIR's: 6 x 2 = 12
12 NGIR: 12 x 3.3 = 40
Putts = 33
Total: 85ish