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Old 07-18-2006, 05:19 AM
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End of caddies

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Re: End of caddies

Interesting quote. Who is the author and what was the reason for the quote/article relative to?
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:44 AM
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Re: End of caddies

I have never had the chance to use a real caddie. I believe a caddie is as much apart of golf as the clubs themselves. I look foward to the day that I get to play a round of golf with a true Caddie.
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Old 07-18-2006, 12:38 PM
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Re: End of caddies

Here in Ottawa Canada area, I believe there are no caddies available at any of its 60+ (both public and private).

Why? Price.

Golf carts are cheaper for both the player and pro shop. The investment be "written down" over time, little maintenance required, and no salaries to pay. Local knowledge of the course of a seasoned caddy has been replaced by GPS tracking in the golf cart and an overlay of the current hole.

The caddy's knowledge of the players swing has not been replaced by technology ... yet. I am sure a program could be (or has been) written that would suggest clubs based on GPS, wind, and normal distances of each club for an individual player. But then this technology would have to be sanctioned by the governing bodies of golf.

Then we would just need some technology that would clean the clubs, replace the divot, hold the flag stick, rake the sand and clean the ball.
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Re: End of caddies

I would love to play with caddies - but I think 2k3 has it.

I think a caddie program gives younger kids something to do. Even if the caddie knows nothing about the course, I'd love to not rake my traps, tend the stick, carry my bag or clean my clubs. What an experience!

Even if I had to tip $5 or whatever (for 9 holes), I think it'd be worth it.

As for the article, even if the caddy gives the golfer all the info, they still have to hit the shot. Giving me Steve Williams won't have me winning any majors.
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Re: End of caddies

End of caddies????
what is my mum gonna keep her tea in ? what next , end of bread bins, abolishment of biscuit tins?
How dare this person write such an article.
long live the tea caddy

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Re: End of caddies

We may be getting to where caddies don't have to be as qualified with the new technology. But as far as pros are concerned there will always be room for caddies. Like mentioned before. Holding the flagstick, raking the bunker, carrying the clubs, taking the blame for a bad shot, ripping cameras out of spectactors hands. Technology can't do all this.

Personally I think the USGA needs to limit what current caddies do. Such as caddies can read the putt, but can't help line the putt up for the player. Or any shot. This is a lot more prevelant on the LPGA.
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Re: End of caddies

In the U.S. caddies at the private & some upper scale public courses are 95% teenagers that are making money while of school for the summer. They don't add to the players ability to play golf, but they allow the player to walk the course without having to carry a bag or push a cart. They rake sandtraps, wash the players golf ball, give yardages (not usually accurate by the way), and are integral in helping the golfer find errant shots. In the Chicago area a caddy makes between $50.00 to $100.00 per round. It's a great summer job for the kids.
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Re: End of caddies

I was once privileged to be invited to a charity fundraiser on a course which is not open to membership and is only available to the rich and affluent. The golf included a caddy for each player. I can honestly say that the experience was something I will never forget. This caddy knew every blade of grass on the course. Every club selection he suggested was spot on and his company was so enjoyable. We finished 3rd in the comp and I can honestly say without the advice given we would have been well down the pecking order. A true caddy is as good at his profession as we are in our everyday work routine.
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Re: End of caddies

I live in Bangkok and the all the courses here have caddies. The larger courses have over a hundred on their staff. There are over 50 courses in the area. Most of them have grown up on the courses and know them blindfolded. Some of them get to play for free when the course is closed, and a lot of them are single handicappers! They have a small salary and live mainly off the tips of punters.
I started playing a year and a half ago - didn't take lessons, never have. Started playing on a full 18 hole course with some friends after a few sessions at a driving range. The caddie I had on my 3rd time out gave me some tips which I found useful...so used him again for the next year and a half. He's become a good friend...I think my girlfriend's bit jealous because I spend more quality time with him than her, four hours a week!
My 1st round I shot 120 something....after 3 months I was shooting in the 90's...my best round so far is 86 (and looking to improve on that).
All this was done with my caddie's help. I'd have given up the game if it hadn't been for him.
I rest my case!
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Re: End of caddies

Hi,

Most of us, especially in Europe do not have the opportunity to use a Caddie unless we are professionals on tour or have a teenage son who wants a raise in his pocket money.

I guess the same argument refers to having a Butler or Valet, maybe we would have one if we could afford them, they are a product of the past but are still around in certain class circles.

For a professional I can see the benefit, it's not just the raking of bunkers, club and ball cleaning but the second opinion and on course Guru that must he a help under those high pressure matches.

I will just have to make do with my electric trolley and the other person that gets into my head at times when I am playing who keeps telling me that I just played a c**p shot!

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