This guy is mad? you decide.

Originally Posted by Ian Hancock

Hi Brian,

I am glad it is not just me, a cupped left wrist is a definate no,no...........open face at impact, he is also promoting flipping the wrists at impact.......................he's mad in my opinion.

As you say the left wrist must be flat at impact, a straight line down the left arm, straight wrist straight shaft.i.e on straight line, the right hand should be cupped at impact like Greg promotes, then releases after impact.

Greg's right hand drill is based on a standard impact drill, i.e if you had an impact bag your shoulders would be opening up as the right arm in a straight line with the shaft comes into impact, the right wrist must remain cupped until the split second after impact.

I would suggest there is only 3% of golfers that ever achieve this position and they are on the two main tours.


Ian.

Originally Posted by frosty1s

I bought his video series and my impression was that if I could time my hands like he does I would never need another lesson, video etc. He hits balls standing on the right leg, standing on the left leg, falling backwards, all the while telling us it is easy if you hit the "little home run". Easy for him maybe, not for me.

Originally Posted by cmays

Remember Hogan and many others used this type of action. It was Byrd from Montgomery,Alabama that taught Hogan this.

You can have the lead wrist to control release, the clubhead moving out in front of the hands or the back wrist and there is a way of using both, I will not cover that.

Yes when you swing back in the backswing it opens the clubface. Swing down in a upright manor, sternum facing ball at impact the clubface remains open.

To close the clubace we must rotate eithe the hands, or arms or wrist or all before impact. To rotate down, you must have rotated something back in the backswing to rotate down. Problem sloved.

In the rounded swing the same action happens in the backswing, the club face is open, on the downswing a rounded or laid off golfer rotates the shoulders around as Hogan. Problem Solved.

There is a 3rd way, sorry, that is part of my bread and butter.

Rotation is Rotation in the swing no matter where it comes from. To turn around and axis, the lead shoulder can be an axis, the body and etc.

This is where instruction has failed, telling you not to do something like the lead wrist hinge in the backswing and not teaching you how to use it. Most of this failure throughout the years have come from upright swingers. They can not do, they can not understood so they teach it can not be done. To be fair, now that people are teaching rotation in the swing we are seeing the same comments from them. No istructors, it can not be done from a rounded swing, but it fits into the upright swing.

I teach the Bar Stool Method of address to many golfers, Jack Nicklaus calls it the At Ease Position and you allow the upper shoulders to drop, the spine remains straight, the knees bend. Others I will teach the hip bend, butt out with the cup in the back, in fact I expose them to both.

Some Golf Guru sat down on the bar stool and bent down from the hips and said this method is no good. Something he did not want to turn to for help and it was easier to say; "It Can Not Be Done."

The two basic swings are not the same, a good example is sternum at the ball at impact and sternum continues to turn around before impact and in one you have more lateral motion to return to the ball and in the other it is more rotation to get behind the ball allowing the back tricep to function. In the upright swing it is the lead tricep that take the blow.