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Old 08-23-2003, 03:36 AM
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Thumbs down grip related to pushing ?

Every shot I play with my driver I push to the right hand side of the fairway and fade it onto the rough in the tree line to the right. What I want to know is if my grip could be the problem. You are supposed to see 2.5 knuckles on your left hand. I see 3 and a bit. Is this the reason for a push. 2.5 knuckles just feels uncomfortable but if it its my only hope ill work with it so im not hitting the ball with an open club face.

Ill appreciate any help or ideas on how to stop pushing.

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Make it part of your Pre-shot Routine. If you do not have one, develop one and use it before every shot.

Stand behind the ball and

1."THINK" about the next shot... not this one. Where do you want your next shot to be from? That's your target for this shot.

2."CHOOSE" the club you need to easily reach the target... (Hit an easy #7 iron instead of a hard #8)

3."PICK" a spot on the ground along the target line...one or two feet in front of your ball.

4."APPROACH" the ball and take a relaxed practice swing

5."KEEP" your eyes on the spot on the ground...

6."ADDRESS" the ball... Square yourself along the line between the ball and your spot.

7. DISENGAGE" Brain... and hit the ball.

With the thinking done... You can relax and make a smooth swing.


Relax m8

Think of hitting down the right and enjoy the draw that will just happen.

I have placed a few notes on ball set up and alignment within the forum, hope it helps....

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The first thing I would do would be to get somebody to check my alignment before trying to change the grip or anything drastic like that. While you're doing that make sure the ball hasn't slipped towards the centre of your stance too and that you are the correct distance from the ball.

You could be swinging abit round the shoulders too much too so your shot hasn't had time to straighten out before it meets the ball. This is probably also linked to the distance you stand from the ball.

You also mentioned your left hand. 3.5 knuckles seems a bit strong and I think you'll probably hook your shots. I would be looking more at your right hand, maybe it's a little too strong( turned too far to the right.) I always have the crease between the thumb and the trigger finger running up the centre of the shaft when you raise your hands to your face to view the grip. I can assure you it doesn't look like that when you address the ball. Let us know what you do and tell us your results.
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Setup Routine 1

Naz,

As soon as I can get an email address from Pgapro. I have a shapshot lesson to post as an HTML doc. It has a sure and steady grip and setup routine. I'll let you know when it's out there.

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Naz 089

You could try slowing down the tempo just a small amount. I have found through practice that a driver hit just a bit to fast does not allow you to get all the body parts in the right place at the right time.

Hit it fast and you will see the ball fade, hit it well within your power limits will often give you a draw or at least a straighter shot, it also helps to set up with the feeling of hitting down the right fairway(Right handed player) to promote the follow through of the wrists at impact.

One important factor is try not to hit the draw with an exaggerated whip of the wrists through impact. Just let it happen at 80 percent of your power instead of 100 percent.

Try it while you wait for da e-mail

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Release

Naz,

It's ok to play with a strong grip. You have to understand, to do this you must also have a strong release. If your have a weak grip you have to have a weak release.

If your seeing 3+ you have to understand a strong release. Your alignment should be about 10* left of your normal aiming point. This is a trust issue. The actual release is a hands chasing through the shot, like you are chopping wood. The bad thing and I think this is where your fade is coming from is: if you try a normal release with a strong grip it will cause the clubface to open because the heel of the hand has a tendency to come through first and turn under. You must return the clubface to where it was at address in your case with a strong position. If on the other hand you come through impact with the left wrist pointing at the target, you will hit a big smoke hook because the clubface will be extremely closed.

Do some mirror work and see where it is at address and slowwly bring it to the top and to impact and freeze then look at your grip.

Hope this helps, please post any progress,

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hey naz

hey naz i went in comp on sunday and only got about 30 points in stableford but that dosent worry me seems i hit 10 fairways out of 18 . just focus and dont think to much. what i made sure in my grip is 2 make a V with my thumb and index finger on both hands it seemed to work and if the grip feels weird just keep practicing and after a while u get in a habit to grip ur club like that

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Thumbs up Thanks everyone

Thanks to everyone for giving me advise. I will definately give all suggestions a go and maybe I can play well in comp on Sunday. The only question I have is. Is standing too close to the ball a reason for making me prone to pushing and fading or standing too far away because I stand close to the ball cause it makes me feel more in control of my swing (with all clubs apart from driver).
I think that I have fixed the problem though. I think maybe that I have not been using my hips and rotating my body enough out of fear of losing balance but last time I played I tried really hard to get the body turning and I was happy to see that hit the ball straight into the light rough on the left hand side cause I was aiming there. I hope it wasn't just a series of flukes!

Thanks anyway

and Sam. 30 points isn't that bad is it? the winners usually get about 40 I think. Any way I'll play comp this Sunday. I want to get about 30 too or more.
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Thumbs up Thanks everyone

Thanks to everyone for giving me advise. I will definately give all suggestions a go and maybe I can play well in comp on Sunday. The only question I have is. Is standing too close to the ball a reason for making me prone to pushing and fading or standing too far away because I stand close to the ball cause it makes me feel more in control of my swing (with all clubs apart from driver).
I think that I have fixed the problem though. I think maybe that I have not been using my hips and rotating my body enough out of fear of losing balance but last time I played I tried really hard to get the body turning and I was happy to see that hit the ball straight into the light rough on the left hand side cause I was aiming there. I hope it wasn't just a series of flukes!

Thanks anyway

and Sam. 30 points isn't that bad is it? the winners usually get about 40 I think. Any way I'll play comp this Sunday. I want to get about 30 too or more.
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Note on scoring and general play.

Try to forget about your score from start of the round until you reach the clubhouse.

Having walked onto the tee you must have one thing in mind TARGET A-B and not how many points you need to score on this hole.

Clear those swing thoughts away and just play golf. Play the golf course strategy wise and watch your scores improve. Enjoy the day out with your friends.

When you come off the course make your notes, I often write a small book on each game after the end of the round from the 1st shot to the last. I.e. Fairways hit what holes I missed the fairway on and why, was it water the on the left or wind from the right or just a bad move, was my putt to strong on the 5th because I was going for birdie and only needed to lag an easy par!

This entire write up can be done while drinking a few pints. Its can give you an insight to area’s that can be worked on next time you play/practice, quite often the game is marred by bad course management. Simple as that…

I then can use the book to relate to my practice, when I need to improve a shot here and there.

Good golfing

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