Are 4 magic moves magic?

My 4MM swing has not hitch whatsoever. If I do it's not noticeable. Maybe it's because I have a very quick tempo like Nick Price.

Speaking of pros with an early wrist break, does anyone remember David Frost? I'm not sure there is any video of him out there, but he was a very solid player who started his compact swing with an early wrist break.

Hi Darth,

I liked Frost's swing. I used to tape a lot of swings for a extended period. I always admired the compactness of his swing. It was solid.

I do think, as with the others mentioned like Curtis, Klauk, O'Grady, Frost also had an early break, but he also started the swing with the body, shoulders and arms, before the break of the wrists.

The more I see the swings of golfers, I notice many of them have early wrist breaks. These early break swings are the antithesis of the swings of Nicklaus, Garcia, Norman (?).

It may be a U.K. influence, or it could be Leadbetter's influence, and/or some connection to Joe Dante's teachings, but to me, Faldo and Rose have medium early breaks, although certainly not to the degree we're talking about with 4MM.

Ted




Ted

I would doubt it's a Dante thing-more likely Leadbetter's. JD is still pretty obscure. Whatever happened to Frosty? He had that compact, accurate 90's swing like Faldo, Price etc. that seems to be obsolete on tour now.
I have searched for vids and all I keep coming up with are the other David Frost interviewing Nixon lol.

just like to say a big thank you to brianw, for posting the link to read the 4 mm's for free.
altered my grip , checked the early wrist break against mine and found that when i returned my hands they looked identical. checked my swing plane and found i was too flat , club dropped outside my shoulders on longer irons.went down the range and hit 50 balls , using 3sk's but with new grip and swing plane and at once the divots after the ball appeared , and no hooking .felt as though , with the 6 iron, itwas over my head , but checked and found it was above my shoulder.
i have been struggling against thin shots with longer irons and fairway woods, and a few hooks .
i think this was one of those 'eureka' moments, and look forward to another 50 balls tomorrow . the grip made so much difference , nice and firm , no club slip .
will practice on the mid-irons first and progress to woods when i am happy .

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i have spent 18months using the 3sk's and don't regard the change in grip and swing plane as a 'quick fix' . the 2 systems are similar and i have just 'borrowed' a bit from the 4mm's .
i think the concept of the arc in 3sk's and inside to square to inside swing had me taking the club back too flat, hence the longer the irons got the thinner i hit the shot. but i never really understood what i might have been doing wrong until i read the 4mm's .
my grip was in the fingers and light, now it's firmer and i see less knuckles.
i know it's early days , but the difference in feel and ease of strike was significant.i will continue to practice this for as long as it takes to improve my game.

That's the spirit.

Hi JaySpin and Darth,

I've become a junky re looking at players who have an early break. I've seen this guy on NationWide.

He definitely has the early break, very close to the beginning of the back swing.


He is a descendant of a long line of golfers. Here's the story.

http://www.golfdigest.com/golfworld/c...90223rosaforte

Ted

Thanks Ted, nice story.
Played a couple of rounds last week and experimented with 4MM a bit. What are your thoughts on addins a conscious "head release" ala Sorenstam or Duval on the downswing? Where they defineitely turn the head towards the targetat or just after impact. I did it for a round and hit some of the longest drives I've ever hit. Next time oput however, I must have overdone it as I contact was terrible, lots of tops of the tee and fairway.

Hi JaySpin,

I could see why you tried that, as I have always regarded Duval's and Sorenstam's actions as powerful and efficient.

I believe Sorenstam did that originally as a drill to make sure she had momentum going forward through the swing. She's very much a "rotary" swinger, using her body core to power the swing and the arms seem to go along for the ride. I suppose the 4MM is also a rotary swing, but with the shoulders generating the swing both back and forward. But one of the keys in 4MM is keeping the head behind the ball, is it not?

I'm going to the range one of these days. I have not been practicing, and played the first two games of the season straight off the couch. I'll have to try it, out of curiousity.

Ted

Ted, Never mind, just got back from playing this morning. While I hit a few beauties on the front 9 I hit just enough clunkers on the front to post the highest 9 hole score (52) since I started 4MM. Went back to the basics of keeping head behind the ball on the back 9 and shot 40.

Hit a small bucket on the range to warm up though and worked on the head turn and hit em all beautifully though. Sigh.

Rotator:

I've recently purchased and read 4MM. Played my first 2 rounds in 6 months and seemed to hit the ball more solidly than I have in quite a while. Am not totally able to incorporate all of JD, but I attribute much to the early wrist break.

I watched the vid of Turnesa's swing and it appears that his is not the early wrist break but more of a wrist roll and break. Perhaps my perception is wrong.

Hope that continued work on the 4MM will show improvement and not the usual it worked for a while and then ..... You know the rest.

Hi Shankless,

There may be the odd slip, but you should be able to work it out. It'll be a minor adjustment to get it back to where it should be.

It's nice to get real results so soon, is it not? I suppose what's going on is that for once you are doing the right things more consistently, such as full wrist break, lag retention, hands leading, etc. You might have been doing these things before, but not quite as consistently.

Ted

Ted:

So why is it that this system is not more heralded? Were it not for your posts I would not have purchased the book. Thank you very much.

Playing tomorrow and Saturday, hope I feel the same about it Sunday.

Les

Neil - Mac OGrady is using the right forearm takeaway.

I highly recommend the right forearm takeaway because it allows one to keep the clubshaft on-plane during the ENTIRE backswing.

I have described the right forearm takeaway action in great detail in my review paper and I have demonstrated it in the accompanying swing video lesson segments.

http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/arm.htm

Joe Dante's early wrist break does not allow one to keep the clubshaft on-plane throughout the ENTIRE backswing.

A perfect example of a right forearm takeaway action can be seen in Stuart Appleby's swing.


Note how his right elbow-forearm stays on the white line throughout the early-mid backswing.

Jeff.