iron/wood swing, help

ok, couple things. how many of u have a swing where when u hit a short iron your swing is more upright and more v like and when u swing your woods or long irons they slice or cut.

1. should my driver/long irons swing be more around my body?
ive been trying to work on this with very little success. every time i finish a range session i have done what i wanted to accomplish but when i go to the course, i just cant seem to do what i did at the range, on the course.

i feel have the troubles with my long irons and driver and fw's r costing me about 5 strokes a round. i just seem to put myself in a bad place and have to make bogey every hole. which costs me. the other times ill be hitting a long iron and cut it to much or even slice it and put myself into another bad spot.

i hit my short irons and my 5-iron very weel and have no trouble. its just my 3 and 4-irons and my hybrid, 3-wood and driver that i cut or slice. i currently play my driver more towards the middle of my stance and it has made my drives straighter and a more lower trajectory. i find myself either in the fairway or they rollthrough the fairway. but when i play the driver off my left heel, i slice it horribly sometimes i can hit it straight.

i want to be able to hit my long irons confidently knowing that when i step up to the ball with say a 3-iron or 4-iron that i can hit flush and straight to my target

its gotten a little frustrating. but i am happy with my driver right now, but i do want it fixed. i wanna be able to play it off my left heel and hit them long and straight like normal. id also like to be able to hit my 3-wood, hybrid and long irons straighter. its not the matter of getting it in the air, its the big cut or slice.

that reminds me, i found a new drill, i have two broken shafts. i thought of doing this, saw it on a show or book. anyways, stick the one shaft to my right 2 feet outside parallel to my driver shaft at address.dont hit on the way back which will help swing straight back and swing under it on the way down coming from the inside like i should. will this help? anyone else doing something similiar

Your golf swing, to my understanding should be the same with your irons as with your with all your woods provided your hitting full shots.

It could be that puting the ball further back in your stance encourages you to swing more on a correct plane than playing it off your left heel for the driver. You could be swinging from the top, something i need to stop doing aswell, causing a outside to in swing path which causes the clubhead to cut across the ball causing a slice or a cut.

Work on letting your hands drop from the top of the backswing. Imagine putting your right elbow into your right pocket on the downswing. This will get you swinging from the inside to outside and hopefully stop you slicing your shots.

This should help for your 3 & 4 iron aswell. As the lower the loft of the golf club the more it will slice or cut, so a PW will slice or cut a lot less than say a 3 iron.

Do you ever shank the ball???because this could also be caused by an outside to inside swing path.

I'm not too sure bout the two shafts idea. I'v heard about vijay using 1 to help on the backswing and downswing but not follow through. Im not too sure what exactly Vijay's drill with the shaft is tho.

Hope this helps

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Craig

My bag:

Taylormade r7 9.5* Stiff stock shaft
Sonartec SS2.5 3+ 13* Stiff Fujikura Tour Platform shaft
Taylormade Utility 2 16* XS Fujikura TP stock shaft
Titleist 904F 4 wood 17* Stiff Aldila NV85 shaft
Mizuno MP67 3-PW S300 shafts
Cleveland 588 47*, 53*, 56* DSG, 60*
Odyssey White Hot #4 putter

Your problem plagues 99% of the golfing population. Most players can not hit long irons/fairway woods because of an outside-in swing plane. The drill you were talking about with the two shafts in the ground is a great one to start with. Also, the inside approach is another that will help with this problem.

To get yourself coming from the inside, keep your backswing high and drop your arms (right elbow to right hip) at the start of your downswing.

Canadian Mike,

Don't get to hung up on swing planes, your swing should feel the same all the time, there is not two golf swings the ball moves further forward with longer clubs and "the plane" sortes itself out, due to the club being longer the plane will be different without you manipulating anything.

All you need to do is to check with a camera or pro that you are swinging on the correct swing plane in the first instance and go from there.


Hope this helps

Ian.