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Old 02-14-2005, 06:51 AM
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draw or fade

now that i got my game working i would like to know how to shape the ball by a draw or a fade thanks for your help
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Old 02-14-2005, 02:18 PM
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Re: draw or fade

The fastest way is to strengthen or weaken your grip. Turn your hands towards the target to promote a fade, and away to promote a draw.
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Re: draw or fade

I was told that if you have a proper swing path with your club and the face is not square you impart side spin which will either cause the ball to hook or slice, if shut you hook and if open you slice.

if I want to hit a hook I aim well right of my target setup first. if I want to hit a slice I aim well left of the target. I then aim my club face to the target. I grip it proper but rotate the club in my hands. I then just swing it like I would any other shot.
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Re: draw or fade

Always ensure your clubface is square to the target, then adjust your swing path to shape the ball. Outside-in for a fade and inside-out for a draw.
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Re: draw or fade

There ya go, hockey.

Three different methods to produce the same result.

Enjoy trying them out!
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Re: draw or fade

basicly gords method and my method is the same thing. The only diff is that with gords you need to change your swing, where my method you swing the same.

Both methods have the clubface facing the target, with my setup if I'm aligned to the right it is like having an inside out swing path, as gord said to draw you need outside in, and with my body aligned left of the target it's like having an outside in which will create a fade.

I know that pro's use both of these methods. It's up to personal preference.
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Re: draw or fade

My method requires the exact same swing every time:

To create a straight shot, you must square the clubface to the target. If your clubface is square to the target, your feet are square to the target line and your swing is inside-square-inside, the ball will fly straight. Always swing square to the alignment of your feet - you will see why below.

Now, if you keep you club squared to the target, but change the line that your feet are squared to, this will change the initial launch direction of the ball.

To draw the ball, align your feet so that a parallel line across your toes is aiming right of parallel to the target line. We still want to swing inside-square-inside on the line that is parallel to the line that our feet are aligned to. What this does is create an inside-out path to the target line. Since the clubface is still squared to the target line, the ball will have a counter-clockwise spin. What we have done is started the ball to the right of the target by squaring our feet to the right of the target. But, because the clubface was square to the target line, the ball will now draw back to the target.

To create a fade, align your feet so that a parallel line across your toes is aiming left of parallel to the target line. We still want to swing inside-square-inside on the line that is parallel to the line that our feet are aligned to. What this does is create an outside-in path to the target line. Since the clubface is still squared to the target line, the ball will have a clockwise spin. What we have done is started the ball to the left of the target by squaring our feet to the left of the target. But, because the clubface was square to the target line, the ball will now fade towards the target.
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Re: draw or fade

I guess after reading my first post I did suggest changing you swing path. I failed to mention changing the line your feet where aligned on. SORRY!!!
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Re: draw or fade

hehehe, Gord I didn't think you moved your feet, I know a pro who actually changes his swing to create a draw or fade and thought that's what you meant.
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Re: draw or fade

I know people who do that as well, usually not with much success. I have have to wrk my a$$ of just to keep my straight shot consistant - I can't imagine the troubles I would create for myself trying to create a different swing path for each shot!!!
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Re: draw or fade

Gord is right, inside out for draw outside in for fades and adjust the feet accordingly. However there are many other flaws that can contribute to curves this mainly pertains to a person who knows and understands their golf swing. Just today I was telling my teacher how I am more comfortable bending it either way, the hardest thing to hit is a consistently straight ball everytime, everyone plays it one way or the other. (some game improvement clubs are hard to bend though I had old ping zings and they just went straight all the time).


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Re: draw or fade

I forget who said it:


"A golfer can put draw on the ball. A golfer can put fade on the ball. But no golfer can put straight on the ball."
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Re: draw or fade

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"A golfer can put draw on the ball. A golfer can put fade on the ball. But no golfer can put straight on the ball."
Unless ur name is Mr. Rich and u can afford super game improvement irons that cost very very much.
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now that i got my game working i would like to know how to shape the ball by a draw or a fade thanks for your help
The easiest way I know, I learned years ago.

Fade= pick a target left of the intended target, now setup to hit your normal shot to it. Just before you swing, loosen your left hand with your right hand open the club face slightly, tighten you left hand and put your right back where it was, swing away and trust it will fade.

Draw= same thing just setup right, and close the face.

This is the same as been said, but this method allows your same basic setup to remain consistant, too often playing with grip and stance alignment goofs with ball position and your swing. This doesn't. your grip and stance looks just like it always does, from your viewpoint, you simply have an open or closed clubface, in your mind you must ignore it, don't do anything with your hands to help during the swing, don't try to swing inside out or outside in, just make your normal swing, your stance address clubface will take care of it.

In time you will develope a feel for how far to open/close the face to achieve the desired results and how far to aim left/right. I use a rule of thumb that for every 2 or 3 degrees I open the face I aim 10 yrs left and same for a draw. I never try to hit it straight, because you will alway be hitting away from the target, unless it goes straight. If I draw or fade, I am working towards the target.
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Re: draw or fade

a much easier way is to align your shoulders, feet and hips to the direction you want the ball to start and align the clubface to where you want the ball to end up.
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