Left Hip - Bump or Turn

Guys

Im still having problems with the club getting stuck behind me some and still trying to find ways of working out

I've started expirmenting ( without a ball ) with the concept of my hip move being much more of a turn rather than a lateral bump. The aim here to clear my hips quicker and give my arms more room to swing in front of me

Now this seems to give me a much free-er swing through the ball but im wondering whether this move would encourage an over the top move? Im not trying to keep my shoulders back and when i look in a mirror it seems this move does drop my arms into the right place (i.e the clubshaft across my left arm)

Perhaps because i have so got so used to coming so much from the inside, i need to feel like I clear quicker and have more of an over the top feeling?

Could it really be as simple as removing the bump and replacing with a turn?

Answer, yes.

Anytime you move laterally, you change the ball position in respect to where you setup. Bump your hip forward and now you are reaching behind you. The only way you can get the face closed in time is to start the hands sooner, so in the long history of trial and error, you grooved the hands this way.

Rotating the hips and letting the ball position stay centered allows the shoulders, arms and hands to swing on their intended plane and paths.

You have to retrain a lot here. Starting with the hips. Then will come the rest having new feelings and position to contend with. But the hope here is that the results will convince the rest that this is a good thing.

Start with the Impact Drill l. It gets your hips in a preset position that makes the shoulders, arms and hands easier to isolate and retrain.

Greg is correct of course,

Maybe this little swing video can help explain the swing plane and getting the club stuck behind you and how it happens.


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Hope this helps


Ian.

Thanks guys. So at impact I guess the belt buckle should at least halfway turned towards the target and the left arm and club forming a straight line behind the ball ?

I wonder why so many instructional guides preach the lateral move of the hip ?

I need to go work on this tomorrow at the range .. i'll let you know how I get on

Well, there is a slight lateral move to begin with to assist the weight shift and then the turn happens. You can't turn your left hip straight away from where it is at transition.

But there is a fine line between not moving enough laterally or moving too much laterally. Unfortunately, this is only one of the things which is very individual becuase we are all built differently so I can't even give you a rough idea of how much and to slide before your turn.

Not much help I know but it is important that you slide a bit and then turn.

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I am only a C Grade golfer and find much of what you guys discuss a bit technical for me. I do let my left heel lift slightly at the top of my backswing just so I can start my swing by putting it back on the ground. This I hope gives me slight lateral move forward and a bit of hip turn. Am I right in thinking this? Sometimes I hit a nice draw but equally often I hit a high cover drive - block it out to the right Would like to hear your views.

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But if you try and turn your hips (and clear them) isnt there by natural physics a weight shift and a slight move to the left to make this happen anyway .. as in you shouldnt TRY and move to the left, the turn will make it happen ?

Pnearn,

You are correct there is a slight slide forward before the turning of the hips, the problems start when you slide away from the target on the backswing, I think going towards the target doesn't matter......I think Teachingpro is saying that no-one can tell you how much you slide towards the target because it doesn't really matter.

My own personal preference is......on the backswing I try not to move the hips at all.....when you reach the top of the backswing look in a mirror and you will see your hips have moved perfectly although you tried not to move them at all.

On the downswing just let them go first with the help of you legs.....this simply keeps the body torque until the last minute.


Hope this helps


Ian.

Cheers Guys

I tried this today for an hour at the range and when I made the effort to ensure my left arm and chest stayed connected and my hip TURN was the action that pulled them through I hit some real solid shots. Lost some distance on the more aggressive hip slide shot I used to have but seeing as they were sprayed all over the place I'll take that

Now all I need to know is how to increase power with this move? Certainly I think I could hold the wrist angle deeper into the downswing

Ian thanks for posting this site, this is really good stuff.

Ian

Do you feel some major stretching in your upper back when you resist the turn of the hips?
I'm finding that by resisting or at least limiting the movement of the hips on the backswing, I seem to be in a better position at the top and also the Coil of the hips on the throughswing seems a lot more natural. By that I mean, No real manipulation of the hips to turn towards the target, all I do is move my left knee out at the throughswing begins and its on plane.

Great post btw guys. I have learned so much on this site. I started playing Golf last October and I am obsessed. I have read countless Books and articles, but I seem to get the best advice always on this site.

Tony

Stroz,

You are doing it correct if you feel this tention...........resisting the hip movement gives you torque in the upper left part or your back and the lower right by your hip.

The feeling I look for is try not to move the hips at all.....it's actually impossible and I mean impossible to take a backswing without moving the hips......so why try to move them???? it's the mind set to help create power.


If your muscles are tight then you have power.....it's just a matter of releasing it at the right moment.


Hope this helps


Ian.