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Old 06-13-2005, 06:32 PM
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Swing Trouble

Recently I Changed My Takeaway I Started Trying To Take The Club Straight Back From The Ball Since Then I Have Started To Hit Behind The Ball With My Driver And Fat Shots With My Irons Can Anyone Help I M Getting Close To Skaring Top Of Driver
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Re: Swing Trouble

Keep the hips very very very still on that takaway. I bet you are swaying like Fred Astair (-;
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Re: Swing Trouble

Hi Greg, correct to say that for the takeaway it's just a matter of turning the wrists (and the arm slightly) so that the club is parallel to the ground and in the direct of the target?
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Re: Swing Trouble

Not the wrists, but the shoulders about the torso as the first move back. The wrists can then begin to set after about a foot and a-half (18 inches) or so. This first curual move eliminates about 50% of all bad problems that have to be re-countered for, from an outside-in path, casting from the top, reverse and excessive (as in the case JWG4GM) pivots. Keeping the hips quiet in the first move allows them to create the needed tension/torque with the upper torso and shoulders that needs to exist at the top of the swing. Any movement now (with the hips rotating to the target as the first move) will immediatly engage the upper torso. If the hips have swayed back or rotated back the same amount as the upper torso and shoulders, your top position does not have tension. Any rotation now with the hips to the target will not engage anything automatically, you are forced to have to time and physically begin the torso and shoulder rotation yourself leading to all sorts of bad things...power loss being the most obvious.
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Re: Swing Trouble

Hi Greg,

Can you elaborate on what casting from the top means? My pro says I have a steep swing, and I wonder if that means the same thing. What do I need to do to make my swing less steep? Could the problem arise right from where I am not rotating my shoulders as the first move?

So when I am at the top of my top and coming down, are my hips the first thing that I should feel moving?

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Re: Swing Trouble

Casting from the top is when the hands release first, before anything else moves...hips, torso, shoulders...

A steep swing means you are probably more outside-in on your swing plane. Or you really use your hands a lot. i.e. Let them set and release very aggressivly as compared to your arms staying long and extended.
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Re: Swing Trouble

Hi Greg,

Yes I was beginning to realise that I'm trying to use my hands a lot to generate the momentum, therefore it doesn't create much power ultimately. I assume you were referring to the motion of these parts in the right order - hips, torso, shoulder? Will try this out when I go to the range again...

The steepness of my swing can be seen from behind, when the upswing is supposed to be something like heading northeast, but mine is heading closer to north.. Does that make any sense, cos I'm not sure what are the common terms that people use to describe their strokes :P
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