What is the best golf swing analysis program

What is the best golf swing analysis program?

I have V1 Home 2 on trial but are there any better ones?

I would also try Cswing @ www.cswing.com.

The libraries are nice.

I find the step function (one frame at a time) easier for me on Cswing over V1 Home.

Theo

I just downloaded the latest update for V1 Home and now it just hangs at the startup screen. Anybody else encountered that? All in all I find it quite a good software, but if you have lower quality videos you could experience some problems with the freeze frames...

At $129.00, it is a LOT more expensive than VI Home. I fine V1 Home just fine - I like the split screen feature and the ability to dowload a multitude of professional swings.

I have been using it for 3 years - there are continuous upgrades and they never ask for any more money!

CSwing is more expensive than V1 Home, but it has more features, too.

For me, I like V1 Home. (But I also have a swing speed radar, and a trajectory mat).

If I had none of this, I'd buy CSwing.

1. I would state that either V1 Pro or CSwing helps a dramatic understanding of the golf swing. If you buy CSwing, I would buy the $189 version as the my main take away from using CSwing is examining the pro's vs. myself. Having a nicely done swing library really helps to understand the ranges of swings.

2. V1 Pro Home Premium is very managable. At least buy this if nothing else. I happened to get some offer for $19, and I just couldn't turn it down. After using both, I would pay the extra for Cswing again. The bookmarks for your swing, the resizing of the subjects, the easy of overlays are just much, much better. V1 Profession, commercial, probably is better, but they cut features out of home.

However, if V1 keeps improving Cswing is in trouble. The licensing on Cswing is a massive pain, and the cute downloadable template swings in V1 is just very, very clever. So Cswing needs to watch out.

It is not the software cost that is the major hurdle, it is the CAMERA cost and the dragging it around.

Just a side note, I have multiple books from about every author on the golf swing, and really only after having stepped slowly through the video of the pros, do I really understand who has a good points and who has bad. The only book that I am much impressed with now is "How To Swing Like A Pro" as it goes through in great depth everything that you see on a Cswing or a V1 Pro. Of course the author, Ralph Mann, used video extensively in looking at how a swing works.

The reason that I'm here is that I was doing a search on "clearing the hips" (which most teachers don't even cover in depth) and I stumbled on Greg's site, which led here. Kudos to Greg for describing in a few web pages, what others seem to miss in whole books.

For kicks, I drag my camera around with the guys at work. I take video of them and they love it. However, one major, major issue. They all think that they are doing something different that what it shows on the tape. Some guys have been taking lessons, and they inform me that their main issue is an open club face at the top of the swing. On video we can see their real issue is standing up on impact!

I am really convinced that without video, a lot of people are wasting a lot of money in lessons. I personally wouldn't take a lesson from a pro unless he or she aggressively used video.



Theo

Did you look at the sites that discuss The Golf Machine? They emphasize clearing hips and maintaining RH wrist cock until last moment.

http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/

and

TGM_Peter_Paul_Intro_for_TGM Definitions.wmv

or

http://www.crokergolfsystem.com/the_golfing_machine.htm

I have a login at Manzella golf. (Theologic there also.)

Quite frankly, I will confess that I've never read Homer Kelley's tome. I spent a few hours one day ripping through the web looking for reviews, and while I know that some people love Homer's stuff, I guess I heard enough skepticism that it cause me to go much lower on my priority list. (Not that I'll probably not get around to it some day.)

To be fair, I started reading this stuff just to try and find an instructor. As I look at my book shelf, I have:

1. No More Bad Shots by Haney
2. A Couple Book by Pelz (fantasic stuff)
3. KISS Golf
4. John Redman Essentials
5. Golf Swing by Heuler (very good)
6. Tour Tempo (actually he's simply wrong)
7. 2 books by the Golden Bear (love the old comic strip book)
8. 3 by Leadbetter (don't know why, since he never says anything different)
9. Extraordinary Golf (mind blowing stuff on club throwing)
10. Swing Like A Pro (Highly recommended)

And a bunch more scattered around the house. Golf is just a sickness, and obviously I've caught it. Clearly, TGM should also be read.

Mind you....

1. I've been at it for 1.5 years
2. I have a handicap of 26
3. I have a ****py swing, and I know everything I'm doing wrong
4. For the life of me, changing my swing from my "natural" form is like scratching through a brick wall with a plastic spoon.
5. So I'm the last person you should listen to, but I still like giving opinions and I have read a lot.

I should have never taken golf up at 42.

Theo

I have V1 GOLF and find it tremendously helpful.

It hasn't got all that much more features than V1 HOME, but it does have some features that help you figure out what to look for AND some very good drills when you have identified your flaws.

I can definately recommend it.