Outside in swing path

Any ideas on how to cure an outside in swing path. making me fade the ball which is good sometimes. but for me makes the ball go too high.

could standing nearer the ball help?

the only thing that works for me is to swing like Fyruk, I don't know why but his swing just makes sense to me, I will always swing from the out to in unless I swing like him.

I'm not a pro...A drill I think I made up you might try would be: on the downswing try to hit your right rib cage with you right elbow, that promotes and inside path. or are you pulling the ball from coming outside to in. if that is the case then try not to turn your hips too much, try to leterally shift them a bit more. but make sure you keep your head still if you do shift you hips laterally. IIRC you are only supposed to turn your hips 45deg past parrelel to the target line. HTH

The swing on a draw, fade should not change. The only difference should be how you set up to the ball. A fade set up slightly open and a draw slightly closed. The leading edge of the club should be perpendicular to the target line in both cases. If your ball is going too high, the club face may be facing right of the target line increasing the loft of the club or the ball may be too far foward in your stance.

sounds like a nice idea i will try it

What I suggest you do first is to leave your stance and your swing exactly the same. But, make 1 simple change:

Instead of trying to impact the centre of the ball, focus on impacting the ball on the inside quarter. By trying to consistently impact the inside quarter, you'll change from your current outside-inside swing to the better inside-outside swing path.

It's a big change in swing path so be patient, you'll probably push a few, maybe shank a couple but be patient and give it time.

too much angle between the club shaft and left arm can cause it

I find that if I don't keep my right elbow in, it chicken wings out which pushes my left hand into a cupped position which in turn can push the club head open and also forward causing an outside-in swing plane. When I want a high fade (well, slice, actually) I do this intentionally. It will really send the ball up and right.

You may need to change your transition. What I like to feel is that I stand on my left foot (you could also feel it like push your left foot into the ground) and then a split second later swing hard to the left (around myself). Im right handed obviously

Do this in slow motion and you'll see this standing action transfers your weight and drops the club on plane (the slot some call it .. i hate that phrase!). From there you can swing hard left and around yourself

If you can get to the range , try and hit about 50 balls this way starting with a PW. It will feel really strange to start with and you may block right or push as you wont be used to the swinging around yourself motion or the timing but stick at it and see how you go

In regards to what teaching pro said, if you need a visual aid, place a cardboard box (like the ones golf clubs come in) 1-2 inches outside the target line and parallel to it behind the ball at first. If you hit the box, then you are swinging outside-in. As you progress, you can move the box behind and in front of the ball to promote an inside-inside path

Proshank,

Have a look for a previous post on this site titled "Homemade Swing aid" search for Durtman's post and picture of his homemade swing aid. That'll sort you out.
Cheers
JC

Ball flight tells all:

Pulls are not draws and are the result of a downswing over the correct plane. Clubface is probably slighty closed but is usually not the main culprit. If it is a complete smother than the club face is closed and is an issue also. (fatal)

Pushes are not slices and are the result of a swing under the correct plane. If you push and slice then the clubface is open and in the mix of issues. (fatal)

Cut slices (starts left and curves right) are the result of the over the plane downswing and open clubface. Most common.

Draws are the result of an on plane swing that is on plane (slightly inside) to the ball and back inside (on plane) to follow through. Nice to watch.

You can paly very good golf with two of the above flights. Many use the cut slice very effeciently but the cut and slice part are very minimal. In fact it may look like a very straight ball flight. Draws are impressive and more difficult to achieve.

Swings over the correct plane are usually caused by a lack of lower body action in the transition. The swing is generated by the hips and shoulders alone throwing the shaft out over the correct path. ("The Sunday Spin")

Club face issues are usually due to tension and a tendency to hold off on the release of the club head through impact. Many hold the face open at set-up inadvertantly failing to use the leading edge of the sole for square alignment.

I would think your outside takeaway must start at the beginning of your move. If you concentrate on taking the clubhead away in astraight line back, this should stop you going offon an outside plane. See what happens.
Cheers Robert

That's assuming he's making a sound swing in the first place. The chances are his rightarm will be staightening too early in the downswing and that problem generally starts at the very end of the backswing. People try to add power to the shot and, as a result, swing hard with the hands/arm, thinking it will give power, but it's actually counter productive.

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Thanks for everyones ideas really good help. I played yesterday with some of the tips you have all said + changed my grip a bit and i got rid of my fade and also started to draw the ball nearly on every shot!! did get a few mishits but practice will get rid of these.

thanks proshank