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Old 05-25-2006, 05:47 AM
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Hands just after impact

Although I'm pretty sure I have a straight left wrist at impact, I think it folds pretty fast right after impact. In a new swing I'm working on, I can actually keep the hands in the same position (straight left wrist, cupped right wrist) well past impact, perhaps like 12 inches after impact, only then it feels like the right hand flips over and left, and right wrist starts to straighten will left wrist starts to fold. I've only done this with practise swings and have not actually hit the ball this way at the range, but would like to get some primer first on how the hands should work during that 12 inches or so after impact? Thanks!
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Re: Hands just after impact

http://www.golfdigest.com/search/ind..._hn1lcofc.html

you can look at over 30 PGA golfers swing sequences after impact

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Re: Hands just after impact

Thanks! Unfortunately they don't really show what happens about 12 inches past impact, and at this point I'm really trying to get a feel of how it's supposed to be. I know that the term 'chicken wing' can also refer to the left arm after impact, but not quite sure what that's supposed to mean?

I also know that we are supposed to extend our arms down the like (like we are throwing the club along the target line), but at the same time supposed to have forearm rotation plus release - I think combining these two seemingly contradicting moves is what's confusing me somewhat.
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Re: Hands just after impact

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I know that the term 'chicken wing' can also refer to the left arm after impact, but not quite sure what that's supposed to mean?

I also know that we are supposed to extend our arms down the like (like we are throwing the club along the target line), but at the same time supposed to have forearm rotation plus release - I think combining these two seemingly contradicting moves is what's confusing me somewhat.
the chicken wing is is when you bend the left arm after imact instead of rotating it around with elbow in the elbow goes out towards the target.

I know what you mean about the condraticting, i am working on that now, but it is huge, it gives me an extra 40ish yrds when i do it correctly. you want to rotate the arms across each other after impact which will help it fire down line, the danger is releasing to early which is a power leak. so try to hink about doing it after impact, that is all i do and it kind of helps. another thing is remember to stay loose, don't tense the hands when you release or that is another power leak. it is hard to do thought.

maybe you can start a thread about that to see if anyone else has any tips.
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Re: Hands just after impact

Thanks for clarifying the chicken wing for me! At least it shows I'm going in the right direction with this new swing. Left hand stays straighter much longer now after impact, especially when I try to keep the clubface longer down the target line and keeping the right wrist cup well into impact. Thanks!
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Re: Hands just after impact

i love this video, i have in on my pc and watch it almost daily

http://www.youtube.com/w/Swing-Visio...page=1&t=t&f=b

tiger left arm is strait untill a little but after hip high
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Re: Hands just after impact

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Thanks for clarifying the chicken wing for me! At least it shows I'm going in the right direction with this new swing. Left hand stays straighter much longer now after impact, especially when I try to keep the clubface longer down the target line and keeping the right wrist cup well into impact. Thanks!
if you are chicken winging it, that is because the left forearm is not rotating, like skywalker said. Assuming the swing is pretty good and this is the biggest flaw, do the drill where you hit shots, while rotating your left forearm so hard that you shut the face down to the point where you hit the ball with the toe of the club
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Re: Hands just after impact

Thanks guys. I think I have a good idea what you are referring to. I can definitely identify the discrepancies between my previous/current swing and the one which I have an idea of how it should be. Practice swings seem good, but will only be able to verify or start practising proper when I get the chance to go down to the range.

If I'm right, the problem was folding the left elbow right after impact and not extending the club along the target line. The elbow is supposed to go towards the target and not fold in so soon, right?
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Re: Hands just after impact

folding the left elbow after impact can be a good thing, it aides in the releasing of the club
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Re: Hands just after impact

Trust you shootin to come up with yet another challenge for me :P So how does it work? Isn't folding the left elbow immediately after impact considered chicken winging it? I'm still hoping you would shed some light on this rotating forearm vs extending down target line paradox.

BTW I'm not familiar with that drill you mentioned above. Are there any more available details on it? Thanks!
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Re: Hands just after impact

If you have ever watched Dana Quigley swing, he has a perfect circular motion around his body/spine when he swings. It is one of the simplest looking swings I have seen. In a clip I watched on him on Golf tv he seemed to suggest that the club doens't extend (at least not to any great degree) down the target line but rather quickly continues back on an inside path after impact.

Does this sound right to you shootin or am I misinterpreting his swing?? No more than I know, I do not want to add to any confusion but there seems again to be some contradiction in instruction from different sources.
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Re: Hands just after impact

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If I'm right, the problem was folding the left elbow right after impact and not extending the club along the target line. The elbow is supposed to go towards the target and not fold in so soon, right?
a chicken wing is when you left elbow points out towards the target (and makes you look like a chicken) instead of staying in and going around our body. it does kind of go out (depending how you look at it) but it is pointing down and behind you when it goes out and you xtend your arm. so you don;t want to fold the elbow in, but let it point in.
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Re: Hands just after impact

a chicken wing is kind of like a flying right elbow on the back swing
the club head cover under the left arm drill will help this out
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Re: Hands just after impact

Simon

Simply explained. When you are arms are parallel to the ground on the follow through both arms should be fully extended and pointing down the target line. Butt of club should be pointing at your belly button. You naturally get to this position from centrifugal force (rotation and leverage). From there the left arm folds up (the reverse of the backswing) and the club comes up and around as you complete your finish

There are some differences when you want to fade and draw but I would leave that for now. Its cause and effect, if you've got to impact correctly and have passive arms/hands the extension on the follow through will be automatic
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When are you going to change that ugly mug shot..I took up golf to get away from the wife
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