how to take the clb back properly

i cant take the club back to parralel to the ground without feeling like i rotate the face open is this what i should feel because i do fight a slice every now and then. im trying to work the RHD into my swing but it doesnt feel right as i a only meant to hinge up and down with the wrists not to rotate them.

thanks adz

Point that toe up, yes. This is a good feeling and position. Too much though, and you risk getting too flippy with the arms. The perfect position at parallel to the ground is where the face is parallel to your spine angle (so not quite vertical, but closed slightly)

You will hear a lot of people telling you that the toe should be pointing straight up towards the sky, so for us beginners we probably end up rotating/fanning at takeaway to reach that checkpoint. I used to do that, but as Greg said, a bit closed is ok. In fact, I've been working on cupping the right wrist, and I think that also helps to get you to that position without needing to rotate the forearms.

It will feel very different, but I'm interested to know how you feel after trying that out. Cheers!

thanks for your input i will be trying all your ideas today as i have 10 weeks off to play golf

i will tell you how it goes

thanks adz

10 WEEKS?!?! You won the golfing lottery!

Is the butt end of the club into the navel the best drill to improve the takeaway?

It is a good one, yes. It promotes "connection" during the takeaway.

it was quite help full all these things but today after playing 2 rounds and practising short game i also had less tension in my hands s in if i held the club any lighter it would fall out of my hands and hey presto didnt have 1 terrible shot and faded draed and hit the ball straight . and yeh i did hit the golfing lottery

thanks

adz

Hmm I know shootin advocates early cup of the wrist, not sure if there are two schools of thoughts here?

Tonight whilst praticising I noticed that I was taking the club too straight back on the takeaway. This resulted in closed club face and a very jammed swing due to little right arm fold.

I then started taking the club more inside of the takeaway, and found that I was hitting the ball much better and more crisper. The key check point at the 9 o'clock position where the toe end of the club as pointing up was being achieved so I was not coming inside too much as to get too flat in the swing.

I mentioned earlier in the thread about the club in the belly drill. This illustrates perfectly the arc you should take with the on the takeaway.

For the takeaway, has anyone seen or used the following devices which encourage a correct takeaway.

http://www.swingmatic.co.uk/

http://www.smartpathgolf.com/

I was thinking of building one myself. I am currently constructing my own inside approach which hopefully will help my takeaway.

There are about 10 schools of thought for every inch of the swing Simon .. just have to work through em and find out what works best for you

Hi Simon,

For me the takeaway is a one piece move, the club, hands, arms and shoulders all turning together on a natural arc until you reach a shake hands position with your back to the target, shaft parallel to the ground and toe pointing directly upwards as it should to reflect the position at address. Keeping the butt end pointing towards your belt buckle is a good analogy.

Cheers
Brian

I found this key a good swing though when working on swing last night after I read about Tiger's view of his swing on the golf digest site.

http://www.golfdigest.com/photos/pho...dex=1&g_id=182

Trying to maintain the angle of the club shaft during my takeaway, stopped me from picking the club up too much in the takeaway. My hands at 9 o'clock where nearer to my right hand pocket as opposed to further up my shirt.

I was interested that Tiger pictures the
shaft angle.
I have found consistency by picturing
the angle of the shaft and arms -- I've
not measured it, but it's about 120 degrees.
Holding that angle.
Same thing, I guess, just different ways.

Anyway, keeping that structure together
in takeaway is solid takeaway.