One plane - Two plane swing difference:

Please tell me again the difference between a "one plane" and a "two plane" swing. I have been moving through so much swing information over the past few months I don't know which I am utilizing right now.

It's largely the relation of the arms to the shoulders. If the shoulder plane and arm plane are the same, it's 1 plane (ie, hands close to the same plane).

If the arms are above the shoulders (ie hands high), it's 2 plane.

Thanx for the reply LowPost, so are you saying it is just a matter of how far the arms and hands travel back and up in the backswing that makes the difference?

Not really, essentially one plane is a more flat swing, more spine angle at address and arms and shoulders go back on the same plane as the shouders, and two plane - more upright, less spine angle at address arms swing on a different plane then the shoulders. One plane - less weight shift and power more dependent on upper body movement. How far the club goes back has nothing to do with this.

hi teevino
your left arm is in line with the plane of your shoulders at full back swing, a two plane your arm is more above the right shoulder and then dips to shoulders as you hips sway and turn. if you look at someone on v1 you draw a line across there shoulders and there arm same plane then its a one plane swing,
bill

Then as an example could I say that Tiger Woods has a two plane swing and that most pro's do. And mine is more one plane because I do not have the flexibility to get my arms back that far above my shoulders, and my arms and hands go back with my shoulders and go back pretty much no further than my shoulders turn.

hi
tiger it trying to get more flatter and into a one plane swing, thats why he and harman split. harman wanted to keep his old swing and stay on fairway but tiger wanted more powers as other players were out driving him so went to the one plane swing to get more power but he cant keep his drive on the fairway, and his swing its more like a two plane swing but flatter.
bill

Hmmmm,, Okay,, I think I've got it..

This article from Golfdigest.com is the best explanation I've found.

Hello Mox, thanx, that really helps clarify it for me. I'm definitely a one planer after looking at that article.. As best I can be that, that is . Great link..

Just a word of warning, I signed up for the monthly fee with www.oneplainswing.com on the 14th of August, however I decided I did not want to participate so I cancelled a couple of days ago and when I tried to go there today, the 2nd Sept I was locked out.

Sorry, I did not make that clear, when I say I cancelled I mean I cancelled my next monthly payment with PayPal.

An interesting discovery. After reading the Golf Digest article provided by Mox, I came to realize that I have been developing and working on the mechanics for a "one plane swing". The article suggests however that a "two plane swing" might be the better for those of us who aren't "power swingers" and who are a "bit" on in years. I'm 59 and have never been a naturally strong person in my upper body. So anyhow yesterday I decided to try the two plane swing. Once I stopped thinking about the arms moving on a different plane from my shoulders and relaxed and just "let it happen" I shot one of my better rounds of golf. Actually, if I hadn't screwed the back nine I'd a shot my lowest game yet.

I like having my stance less spread out. I like the steeper path of the swing. I like standing more erect which puts me closer to the ball. And I like the more "neutral" grip (though the stronger grip better ensures a straightening of the left arm at setup, so I have to check that). So after all this time I find myself changing the basic mechanics and setup for my swing. How crazy is that . But it's working and I'm making good contact (mostly) and feel I have a swing that feels more natural/comfortable for me.

Also the article talks about ball placement for long and short irons and by following that advice I found I got much better (I feel more accurate) distance with my irons. Again, great article Mox.

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Good luck Hud. hope you didn't give them any credit card or check account info. If so, you might better shut them down. I've been there and done that. I didn't loose anything because I caught it early.

hi jim
i normally avoid the 1 v 2 plane debate threads but having said that i have read the post and the links and i am definately a 1 plane swinger and happy to keep it that way!
happy with my swing, happy with my distances so working solely on short game at present!