Swing plane of driver

I am experimenting with my driver takeaway at present. I tend to get a good solid result by keeping the club on a straight plane from start to impact. However, when trying a takeaway on the inside and concentrating on an upward strike, this seems to give a more powerful strike and extra yardage, allthough not the same straight ball flight. Is there any hard and fast rule which relates to either being "correct"? Any ideas appreciated

IMO (not IMEducation), taking any club away on or slightly above the plane is the key.

I've been hitting balls into the net since the snow stayed. My swing looks (and feels) much better taking the club back on plane. It also then eliminates my OTT move, adding speed to my swing (75mph 7 iron OTT, vs 90mph without the OTT move.) Obviosly there are compounding factors, as I think an OTT move doesn't allow the hands to release properly (giving up speed through impact.)

Hi Robert,

I take the club away by scribing a natural arc with my left arm, I rotate my left arm slightly through the take away so that the club face stays vertical to the plane (If kept perpendicular to plane the face would be closed when horizontal).

I am not quite sure what the relationship is when you say "and concentrating on an upward strike" The upward strike is dependent on ball position and tee height.

Hi guys - help please with some General Ignorance.

Having read Leslie King - "-the golf action consists mainly of a FREE SWING OF THE LEFT HAND AND ARM to the top...and down again into and through the ball" I think that this is what I'm trying to do as well.

However I'm a little confused with the difference between "Swing Plane" and "Swing Path" as I thought (perhaps wrongly ) that this "free swing" was the Swing Path.

Hi Bd,

They do mean the same thing but there are two ways it effects your swing:

Imagine when you address any club that a circle is formed around your body that is inclined back in line with the club shaft, the radius will be from the centre of your clubface to a line that extends to your spine. The surface of this circle is your "Plane" and the rim of the circle your "Path". As the clubs gets longer the plane will be laid back at a steeper angle.

If you can swing the club around the circle then it will be on plane and path, if you allow the club to move outside the circle at any point it will become off path and plane.

Unfortunately it's a bit mire difficult than that! When your club is at address it should be pointing directly at the target, as should the plane of the circle. Now imagine the circle being rotated slightly so it's plane points left of target, if you followed the circle now with the shaft you would be hitting on an Out to In path, rotated to the left an Inside to Out.

Hmmm! Its not easy to describe without a picture but I hope this helped to explain.

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Brian

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Funny o'l game!

Thanks - so most people use the terms interchangeably then I guess.

Just like swinging inside a giant inclined hula hoop then - well thats one way to visualise it.

So once I'm swinging on plane and on path ALL I've got to worry about is the angle of the club face

Yes, mmmm that's right. A two plane swing will leave this path at the top of the back swing and return just before impact. A one plane swing will stay on plane, although due to the legs settling and becoming slightly more squat in the downswing the plane will lower slightly as you come back down.

Robert, I like the sensation/waggle with driver where I waggle low to high to give a sweeping motion at impact. This puts more roll on the ball and gives you a little extra loft.
Also, going from low to high keeps the shoulders square or a little closed which promotes a draw=also more roll.

I have found a picture in the attached web add. I think Bdbl and Robert will get something from the videos.

I am not selling it though

http://www.superswingtrainer.com/movs4.html

Brian

LOL It really is a giant hula hoop!

Seriously though that was interesting - thanks.