right arm

Hi again,

I'm trying not to be to technical here but I would like some input on the right arm throughout the swing.When I created my swing years back I made sure my right elbow and tricep was always attached to my side(backswing and downswing).Worked for many years-got away from that trying to create more width on the back swing and have struggled since.Went back to that today and was alot better along with some other things I had had strayed from and didn't realize.

What are some of the pros and cons with the right elbow and tricep locked in.

Thanks

The right elbow and upper arm remain close to the upper body through most of the swing except at the top of the backswing and follow through. They would create a restricted swing and over flat plane if left connected all the way.

Why worry about the pros and cons if it is working for you. If you do it better by some way I or some other poster think unorthodox, does it matter? Have fun. Number one rule in golf/golf instruction, if it works for YOU, then do it.

The closest analogy I can think of is: if you pin your right arm as you said throwing a golf ball, you would look like a girl throwing, wouldn't go far either. Your right arm works pretty much the same way in a golf swing, as it does when throwing something, it's an athletic move, locking any body part, including the right arm is going to mess that up. Practice threwing a ball side arm from your address position, then transfer that to the swing with a club, think you will do much better. This is a good drill for release and weight shift, throwing that ball straight brings every thing into sync, then just do it with a golf club. If you try and throw that ball to hard, watch what happens, goes left, or right, anywhere but where you want it, golf swing is pretty much the same.

Harvey Penick said at the top of your swing as to start your downswing, move the weight towards your front foot and bring the right elbow back down to your body.

This he called the "Magic Move"

Lemme quote

Allow me to quote cmays (golfone) the archives:

To many people are putting all their energy from the top of the backswing down.

The energy and speed starts when the right arm for the right handed golfer returns to the chest.
I got a laugh out of Leadbetter, he has learn to tighten up on the swing and in his new books he states the long backswing arch is a myth.

Like I been saying for 35 years, you can stretch the arms as straight back as you like on the backswing, but once the right arm for the right handed golfer starts to bend and forms the 90 degree angle, you are in the same place as if you bent the back arm up on the backswing.

How many times have you heard to allow gravity to allow the club to drop?
Gravity places the back arm to the chest, then you are able to rotate and turn on the speed.
Many of you would be better off playing a 3/4 swing until you learn the full swing and on the forums there are many honest ones tell you they hit better when making a 3/4 swing. As long as you make a good back turn in the backswing you have it made in the shade.

No one swing will ever fit everyone, too many instructors only teach one type of swing, by mechanics and the PGA has stated the same.

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I think his article makes a lot of sense... It works for me.

Alot of good advice on here and I enjoy everyone's input.Big problems the more I see my swing-I always thought my right arm was close to my body-ha ha-funny how those things don't look the way it feels.I am struggling to get my right forearm at the top to be up and down and not flared out-the feeling of having my right arm stuck to my body was actually my arm pit-but my right elbow has flared out at the top and it stays that way coming down -ugly move and would like some input on how to get more of a one planer which I thought I was doing.

Thanks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fBqDRst_Ig

I cant really see anything wrong with your backswing, although a front on would help.

You don't appear to be rotating your hips into the impact position and through, looking at you in the quarter through position your hips and shoulders seem to be still facing front, they should have cleared through to at least 45 Deg by then.

you are so correct-and I have done this some how trying to get away from sliding-this has been a problem for awhile from trying to turn the hips to sliding to nearly nothing-I have read somewhere if you have sliding probs to bring the clubhead down with the arms and then turn the hips-I don't know anymore how to correct this.At one time I had alot of leg action but that has even left me.

Thanks

Try Ben Hogans image at address of a strong elastic strip attached to your left hip and fastened to a wall behind you. Then a thinner strip fastened from your belt buckle to your left wrist.

As you turn your hips in the backswing the elastic strip attached to your left hip becomes taught, the thinner band from buckle to left wrist also gets taught as you raise your arms to the top. As you start your downswing the first strip pulls your hips back, as the hips unwind they pull the second band that tugs your arms and hands down to waist level ready to release the club into to the ball with your right hand. Aim for the hips to be square at the halfway down position and 30/45 deg open at impact.

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Best Regards
Brian

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Funny o'l game!

From what I see you can achieve a one swing plane if you bend more at the hips but keeping your club at the same position as in your video. Your stance in the video looks like it would be close to a single plane swing with a wood. In-other-words you have a set-up for a driver in the video but you are using an iron. You do have a nice swing, it just needs a little tweeking. Maybe a pro can help you.

2 problems I suggest you take care of
your shoulders look open at address
and like you said your right arm gets in a difficult spot
I could be wrong because it is hard to see when I cannot stop it frame by frame and you have a sweater on, and the bagginess of the sweater makes it hard to see your forearms

both may be taken care of by fixing your address position of your right arm. You need some right elbow bend and you should have your forearms level at address or your right forearm should be a little under your left. What I mean by level is this. At address have someone place a shaft across your forearms. It should point at your target, or even to the right but the way you are set up you would point to the left. I would be interested in what your grip looks like because if that is too far off then all attempts at making changes would be in vain.

Hey all golfn' fanatics,

Thanks for all your inputs on this thread-I came across something earlier when I was hitting balls that could tie alot of these pieces of (MY) golf swing puzzle together-All I did was to make sure my left arm on backswing and downswing stayed connected ,- not so much my right arm-my right arm will always be close to my side no matter what I do-but the left arm I think was getting away (not connected) just about half way back and kinda stayed that way throughout.So my thinking about this was to have my left arm pinned to my arm pit or left pec and fire away and not think about nothing else (ESPECIALLY MY RIGHT ARM)...LOL. Hips cleared more than they have been and actually feels more on plane.....So my thinking is forget the what the right arm is doing and make sure the left is connected?