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Old 03-31-2007, 01:31 AM
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

Ok heres another rebuttal to "not needing to fire your hips".
You guys prolly didnt watch the Nationwide Tour tonight. But they were talking about Hank Kehnue, specificly his hips. Direct quote "...his hips are so far ahead, that it creates tremendous swing speed and lag..."

Now for a quote from Tiger a few years ago..."I've never seen anyone hit it as far as Hank"

Of course the key to this swing speed is his hips. Unless you are 6'9'' and 300lbs of muscle and can just use sheer strength to hit it far, you have to fire your hips.

And theres a difference between clearing your hips and outracing your arms. The only time you outrace it, is when you cant square the clubhead at impact. The faster you can fire your hips the better, as long as the clubhead is square at impact.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

austin got longer as he got older. when he was in his late seventies, he still hit one irons 280. On his dvds you can see the older he got the more square he got with his hips and shoulders at impact. The more he learned the more refined his swing became. I can appreciate that the picture you have shows his hips open, they are no where near tiger open though. picuteres from 20 years later then that would be within 5* of square. I can appreciate your rebuttal, I will say I am comfortable in what I beleive I now know about kinetic energy, and not minipulating the laws of the pendulum where I stand by the statement I made.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

I looked up some stuff on Mike, and I think his 515yd drive was just a freak happening. He is a long hitter tho from what ive hear, with a 155mph swing speed and all. I think hes just one of thoes guys that is innately long. But of course if something is working for you, dont change it.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

try studying what he teaches by watching his videos. He is so long because he has strength, is tall, is fast, and utilizes the laws of physics. One of his pupils, mike dunnaway, is very long as well and his hips and sholders are prettty square at impact as well. But he is not so tall, or as strong. It is that the technique utilizes the laws of physics. Mike Austin was long before he studied the sciences of what made him long. after studying he refined and it made him even longer. One of the biggest advantages of his method is it puts very little straind on the body. SInce I started learning his method I have stopped wearing my knee brace because I dont need it. I have a torn meniscus and the ohter swing I was using was not good on the knee, but this one does not bother it.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

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That sounds alot like "hitting it with your body" like what Stewart Appleby and Rocco Mediate do so well. its def. a solid way to gain power and consistantcy. Thats something I'm actually working on now, it helps me release the club better and maintain my spine angle.


and as far as square hips at impact go. Its a very poor impact position and no sensible teacher would teach that. There is not a single tour player that doesnt clear their hips. These guys are the best in the world, and their swings may not all look the same but their impact position are all almost exactly the same. And that is maintained spine angle, hands ahead of the clubhead, and fully cleared hips. Not clearing your hips is going to lead to breaking down of your wrists at impact (scooping the ball) and poor weight transfer. It generates no power because its all upper body and utilized zero of the rest of your body.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

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try studying what he teaches by watching his videos. He is so long because he has strength, is tall, is fast, and utilizes the laws of physics. One of his pupils, mike dunnaway, is very long as well and his hips and sholders are prettty square at impact as well. But he is not so tall, or as strong. It is that the technique utilizes the laws of physics. Mike Austin was long before he studied the sciences of what made him long. after studying he refined and it made him even longer. One of the biggest advantages of his method is it puts very little straind on the body. SInce I started learning his method I have stopped wearing my knee brace because I dont need it. I have a torn meniscus and the ohter swing I was using was not good on the knee, but this one does not bother it.
Could you please tell me the names of the DVDs so I can get it. I wouldn't mind hitting a green of a par 4 in one in one of my tournaments . I might hit somebody in the process though, but I'll say it's their fault for being there .

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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

i agree to the gentleman that said the money is made from 100 yards and in...i personally would like to hit driver 60 degree all day!
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In your profile, you claim you are a pro but don't have a handicap; is that a joke or do you merely have aspirations.

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That sounds alot like "hitting it with your body" like what Stewart Appleby and Rocco Mediate do so well. its def. a solid way to gain power and consistantcy. Thats something I'm actually working on now, it helps me release the club better and maintain my spine angle.


and as far as square hips at impact go. Its a very poor impact position and no sensible teacher would teach that. There is not a single tour player that doesnt clear their hips. These guys are the best in the world, and their swings may not all look the same but their impact position are all almost exactly the same. And that is maintained spine angle, hands ahead of the clubhead, and fully cleared hips. Not clearing your hips is going to lead to breaking down of your wrists at impact (scooping the ball) and poor weight transfer. It generates no power because its all upper body and utilized zero of the rest of your body.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

May someone please tell me the name of Mike Austins' DVDs? I would really appreciate it.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

Thanks but do you guys think this is a good buy? It's only $39.95 plus $5 s/h. Shed some light on this young golfer.
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

A slow backswing helps give more disance...
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

just to add...bubba got the tip from Woods....I believe Woods is longer of the tee than Bubba or JB but ALL shorter than Daly or Hank Kuehne


A specific move in Woods' golf swing wasn't doing him any good, either. Just past impact with longer clubs, Woods regularly snapped his left knee into hyperextension. Woods considered the move a key source of distance, and as a small-boned person of 6-feet-2--who still has a 29½-inch waist and weighs 178 pounds--it was an important one as he competed against bigger men like Singh, Els and Mickelson. In his book How I Play Golf (click here to read book excerpt), Woods writes that he would exaggerate the move "when I need an extra 20 yards."

In his 2001 book, How I Play Golf, Woods described "snapping my left leg straight" when he needed extra yards. But after surgery, he sought to alleviate stress on the left knee. Photo: Christian Iooss
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Re: Tour Proven Keys to Distance

When you are a pro you don't keep a handicap... you don't (can't) have one. Handicaps are for amateurs for use in net tournaments.
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